Latest Real Estate "trend"

[Joe]

Scott, let's see what your word on this "trend" is.... :dunno:

So basically, I had a friend who was moving down to Orlando from Atlanta. He came down 2 months ago and found a home for his family. He made an offer to the sellers and they agreed. He signed a Sales Contract. They decided that they would set the "closing date" to be last week to give him time to arrange everything up there.

He comes in two weeks ago and talks to the seller. He then finds out that after he has planned everything for the move/purchase that the seller has rescinded the sales agreement. Obviously this pissed my friend off and this week he found otu why the seller did... The seller got an offer for $25,000 more and decided to "back out" of a signed Sales Agreement.

The Sales Agreement is a legal contract. The problem is that my friend contacted 3 Real Estate Attorneys and they ALL said that it would not be worth pursuing because of the money that would be spent and the fact that it would still be settled out in Arbitration for a higher amount anyway.

So basically these days a Sales Contract is shit. They are not being enforced and sellers are yanking contracts from buyers left and right for higher/faster money.

Personally, I would pursue it. I would make sure that the new buyers were kicked out of the home. I would make sure that the seller would have to return the money to those buyers, and I would make sure to move into the home. I am a man of my word, and I would make it hell on someone who would try to shaft me like that. I wouldn't care about spending $30,000 more simply for the point of the matter. Most don't have the resources to do this, and the sellers seem to be banking on it.

It was also found out that the Real Estate Agent of the seller mentioned this "factoid" to him in order to get more commission from the higher sale value...

So, What would you do in this situation?

Either way, my promise to the seller and the real estate agent would be that I would cost them the "profits" and then some, to make a point. Period.

I would also make their lives hell, on the backend. (I would buy a billboard and simply put the word "LIARS" with their pictures and names on it close to where they live/work. *done it before*)

[I'm Slow]

Sux, I would burn the house down! j/k! But thats definetely messed up, especially since your friend has made all these plans and even moved for the new home.......actually I think I really would burn that bitch down!

[moldyhands]

he should've contacted a lawyer instead of 3 real estate agents. if he had a valid sales contract and consideration had been given (i.e. a downpayment), he could get the court to enforce the original sale. that being said, it would have to be before the other person moved in or incurred any expenses.

[DookieLuv!]

I would definitely be the asshole and back out for 25k too. Sounds dick, but fuck it, money talks......25k is a nice chunk of change. Hell, I think you'd be stupid to not back out. :whoa:

[Amortized]

I would definitely be the asshole and back out for 25k too. Sounds dick, but fuck it, money talks......25k is a nice chunk of change. Hell, I think you'd be stupid to not back out. :whoa:

a contract is a contract. have some integrity, especially if you want people to continue to do business with you in the future. If you do this, I hope you pull out on somebody like "Joe" who's gonna make it a full time job to make your life hell.

I hate when people sign their name to something and still won't come through on their end of the deal.

[DookieLuv!]

a contract is a contract. Yeah, I can agree with that, but business is business and its a dog eat dog world and no one is looking out for the best interest of that man and his family other than himself. Its just a fact of business that sometimes you have to pick and choose what bridges to burn and what bridges not too and weigh out the differences. I wouldnt do it for 5k, but 25k....different story. That can put a kid thru college, that could be a down pmt on a new house that will save him huge amounts of money over the course of a 30 year loan, that can be retirement for him and his wife. The fact of the matter is that after the sale of the house, he wouldnt have any contact with these people ever again, so I wouldnt cut them any favors at my expense.....better luck next time partner. :sadwave: And you cant sit here and tell me that if the 'buyers' found out the identical house across the street that was going for 25k less that THEY wouldnt pull out of the contract. :rolleyes: Its what makes the world go round.

[Amortized]

Yeah, I can agree with that, but business is business and its a dog eat dog world and no one is looking out for the best interest of that man and his family other than himself. Its just a fact of business that sometimes you have to pick and choose what bridges to burn and what bridges not too and weigh out the differences. I wouldnt do it for 5k, but 25k....different story. That can put a kid thru college, that could be a down pmt on a new house that will save him huge amounts of money over the course of a 30 yearloan, that can be retirement for him and his wife. The fact of the matter is that after the sale of the house, he wouldnt have any contact with these people ever again, so I wouldnt cut them any favors at my expense.....better luck next time partner. :sadwave: And you cant sit here and tell me that if the 'buyers' found out the identical house across the street was going for 25k less that THEY wouldnt pull out of the contract. :rolleyes: Its what makes the world go round.

lordy, all I can say is keep looking for that little payout, it will be worth it when karma catches up. i find it sad people look for ways to rip off others instead of looking for ways to earn it legitimately.

[corey r.]

for 25k i cant say that i wouldnt be tempted.

[Epicman]

= And you cant sit here and tell me that if the 'buyers' found out the identical house across the street that was going for 25k less that THEY wouldnt pull out of the contract. :rolleyes: Its what makes the world go round.


The difference is that, more than likely, the buyer gave a depost of a couple of grand on the contract. So if he backs out of the contract he is out of that money. Where as the seller can be a dick and pull out and there are no repercussions. I understand where you are coming from, $25,000 is a lot of money but you signed a contract that said you would sell at x amount. He could have at the very least contacted the buyer and told him what was going on.

[jabtay]

I think the seller should be penalized for this. It was a legal contract that he backed out of. Now hes making 25K more, and your friend is screwed. Thats not how buisness should be run. I mean in the long run its only 25K vs your integrity

[Joe]

I mean in the long run its only 25K vs your integrity

As seen by some of the posts here, many seem to have their integrity for sale. :thumbdwn:

Like I said... if this "trend" ever affected me, you can bet the seller and real estate agent would have wished they kept my deal... Seriously. :evil:

[jabtay]

I dont think they know the meaning of the word integrity

[Joe]

he should've contacted a lawyer instead of 3 real estate agents. if he had a valid sales contract and consideration had been given (i.e. a downpayment), he could get the court to enforce the original sale. that being said, it would have to be before the other person moved in or incurred any expenses.

FYI, this is real estate Attorneys, not agents. Reread the post. :)

In order to get this done before he resold it he would have to attempted to get an injection, which by the time he would have filed for it, the house was sold.

It's the lack of loss on the sellers side that bothers me. As a buyer you have to pur a deposit down, and I feel that as a seller you should be bound to not be able to sell the home for 6 months if you decide to pull out of a sales contract against the will of the buyer. Period.

[DookieLuv!]

All I'm saying is that sometimes in life you have to benefit yourself at the expense of others, EVERYONE has been on the giving AND recieving end of this, no matter how big or small it was. Deals fall thru all the time, its just a fact of life.

[Deus]

I am amazed to hear what the attorneys allegedly said in this case. It would not be necessary to obtain an injuction in this case. Let the other famiy keep the home. Instead, collect the extra $25,000 in damages from the seller. These damages are called "expectation damages" and are well recognized and would be likely awarded in either court or arbitration (if the contract has an arbitration clause).

I think that it is most likely that the seller used a loophole to avoid contractual liability in this case. If not, it should be the easiest case in the world to get money out of the sellers. BTW, an exchange of promises can create a vaild contract, as a promise can constitute consideration.

BTW - There might even be a cause of action against the new buyers, depending on the facts.

[Dunecune442]

Scott, let's see what your word on this "trend" is.... :dunno:

So basically, I had a friend who was moving down to Orlando from Atlanta. He came down 2 months ago and found a home for his family. He made an offer to the sellers and they agreed. He signed a Sales Contract. They decided that they would set the "closing date" to be last week to give him time to arrange everything up there.

He comes in two weeks ago and talks to the seller. He then finds out that after he has planned everything for the move/purchase that the seller has rescinded the sales agreement. Obviously this pissed my friend off and this week he found otu why the seller did... The seller got an offer for $25,000 more and decided to "back out" of a signed Sales Agreement.

The Sales Agreement is a legal contract. The problem is that my friend contacted 3 Real Estate Attorneys and they ALL said that it would not be worth pursuing because of the money that would be spent and the fact that it would still be settled out in Arbitration for a higher amount anyway.

So basically these days a Sales Contract is shit. They are not being enforced and sellers are yanking contracts from buyers left and right for higher/faster money.

Personally, I would pursue it. I would make sure that the new buyers were kicked out of the home. I would make sure that the seller would have to return the money to those buyers, and I would make sure to move into the home. I am a man of my word, and I would make it hell on someone who would try to shaft me like that. I wouldn't care about spending $30,000 more simply for the point of the matter. Most don't have the resources to do this, and the sellers seem to be banking on it.

It was also found out that the Real Estate Agent of the seller mentioned this "factoid" to him in order to get more commission from the higher sale value...

So, What would you do in this situation?

Either way, my promise to the seller and the real estate agent would be that I would cost them the "profits" and then some, to make a point. Period.

I would also make their lives hell, on the backend. (I would buy a billboard and simply put the word "LIARS" with their pictures and names on it close to where they live/work. *done it before*)

Call FREC and see what they can do. +1 on attorney. This is pursuable BTW. If the buyer had a deposit, a contract and was traveling that much then the odds would be stacked for your friend. I think this is an easy win. If the house has not been sold yet I would threaten legal action. If they STILL dont listen I say sue. They dicked your friend around (out of town might i add), went AGAINST the contract that was agreed upon, and backed out while your friend had a deposit (illegal). Contact FREC, which is a governing body for ALL sales associates, brokers, etc... And see what they can do because an agent is not supposed to allow this too happen. Im not sure in what relationship the realtor for the seller was taking however. There are several forms, one of which the realtor plays "neutral" (transactional) and then acts as a representative for the seller (single agent). Find out how the agent was acting, a transactional agent would not be in trouble in this case but a single agent would (because they can advise the seller). You can file a complaint with FREC, which will be investigated and if found guilty the associate would be fined up the asshole. Also, go to myflorida and search the realtors name, if they have an inactive license you can have them suspended/revoked.

Now for the seller :naughty: they are legally both legally and ethically to stay with the contract. It is common business practice that once a contract and a seller are found that any offer after that cannot be taken if it is higher, and must be disregarded. My dad has sold houses before and approached with an offer 15k more than what we sold, but we still stuck with the contract. It is expected in business and this is common practice to follow the deal all the way through whether the buyer backs out or the deal falls through (seller CANNOT back out for another offer to my knowledge).

Tell me how it goes, Ive never had a seller back out with a contract on the table, a buyer and a deposit....

If their was no deposit than their isnt much that can be done. A contract is not final till the closing. Basically, if your friend had not deposit he has little he can do but he can still try and fuck the agent over. Trust me, if they are acting as sales reps with an inactive license and are caught they will get fucked by FREC and the "department" (FREC will send word to them). Its a felony BTW.

Keep in mind tampa bay is a great sellers market. They can command any price and probably get it.

[Malevolent X]

To my knowledge real estate is first come first serve. I didn't think they could even sell the house knowing that someone even offered on it. I would fight it. I think he has a great case.

[dawny]

I sue them for the hassle- and charge them interest!!

[Deus]

If their was no deposit than their isnt much that can be done. A contract is not final till the closing.

I do not believe that this is accurate. Although sellers requiring "earnest money" is a common practice, it is not a prerequisite to the formation of a contract. As As I said before, An enforcable contract can, and often does, consist of an exchange of mere promises at the time of contract formation. Real estate contracts usually contain numerous contingency clauses, concerning financing, inspection, or insurance for example, but it would be highly uncommon to have a "higher offer" clause. In short, unless the seller could claim that a contingency clause that would cancel the sale was applicable (or could assert some other contract defense), the seller is liable. End of story.

Also, a closing is merely the consumation of the transfer of interest in the property. A promise to close is enforcable.

[arsoniq26]

If the seller was represented by a licensed agent, he could be tried in front of the FREC or DPBR for unethical practices. And if found guilty, your friends court costs and lawyers are payed for and probably gets the house.

[Dunecune442]

I do not believe that this is accurate. Although sellers requiring "earnest money" is a common practice, it is not a prerequisite to the formation of a contract. As As I said before, An enforcable contract can, and often does, consist of an exchange of mere promises at the time of contract formation. Real estate contracts usually contain numerous contingency clauses, concerning financing, inspection, or insurance for example, but it would be highly uncommon to have a "higher offer" clause. In short, unless the seller could claim that a contingency clause that would cancel the sale was applicable (or could assert some other contract defense), the seller is liable. End of story.

Also, a closing is merely the consumation of the transfer of interest in the property. A promise to close is enforcable.

those promises are worthless unless some CONSIDERABLE cash amount, such as a non-refundable deposit are exchanged. So no, you must have some kind of guarantee LEGALLY. Real world people still go with words but you do have fucked up buyers that will back out and can do so if they have no monetary obligation.

[Deus]

those promises are worthless unless some CONSIDERABLE cash amount, such as a non-refundable deposit are exchanged. So no, you must have some kind of guarantee LEGALLY. Real world people still go with words but you do have fucked up buyers that will back out and can do so if they have no monetary obligation.

What I am suggesting is that these promises can form the basis for a lawsuit for breach of contract, assuming the contract is in writing and the buyer met all conditions precedent prior to breach. When someone breaches a contract and damages the other party, that creates an enforceable "monetary obligation."

[Dunecune442]

Its hard to gather what exactly was in the contract without reading it, and I have no idea what exactly what was said or agreed upon oraly and written.

Im sure their was an "escape" clause for the seller. I would review the contract thoroughly. Many times this clause is set in the disclaimer.

[moldyhands]

dunecune said it (and i believe i stated earlier), that consideration is a requisite for a contract to be enforceable. that's why in most business contracts (going a bit away from real estate here, but i've seen tons of business contracts), it will state specifically something like, "pay $xxx,xxx as due consideration for ________ ". that way the court doesn't have to determine whether there was consideration or not, because this is very difficult to do (as shown here by the disagreement).

usually, a contract full of promises, but no economic actions by either side can be pulled pretty easy.

[Dunecune442]

moldy said it, however i believe I said it much better. Sorry moldypenis. :fart:

but yes you have to have some kind of collateral you could say. Such as using a vehicle as a promise to go through with a deal (ive seen this before).

[Scott]

for 25k i cant say that i wouldnt be tempted.


Now there is a real shocker ! :rolleyes:


Joe, first I would turn the agent into FREC but he had better have something concrete on the agent. The seller did breech the contract on many different fronts. Also he could report the agent to GTAR if the selling agent is a member.

Did your friend use a agent to represnt him ?

Did your friend put down a escrow deposit ? If so, who has it ?

Secondly I would persue it for the same reasons you mentioned. If my customer (buyer) was on the receiving end of a transaction like this I would spend my own money on the billboard plus a few other things. I would not bother giving my money away to some POS attorney just so it can go to mediation and drain my cutomers wallet in the meantime.

Personally I have not heard of this happening (other than this thread) but have read it in some Realtor publications I get .

On a side note, it is amazing (not really) how many others in this thread are trying to rationalize this from the sellers perspective, shows some people have no back bone and obviously do not believe on karma.

[XtremeVision]

I cant believe people are doing that...last house I sold in april, I sold it for 170,000...a few days later the same townhouse as mine was selling for 186,000...yes I could have backed out but I didnt feel it was right because it does come down to karma...I may have lost some money on the last house but I am ahead 60+ Gs on the new house I bought so I won both ways...the people I sold the house to also became friends and have sent me mortgage deals so it workd out great...

[Dunecune442]

On a side note, it is amazing (not really) how many others in this thread are trying to rationalize this from the sellers perspective, shows some people have no back bone and obviously do not believe on karma.

Oh please, dont flatter me. I have a spine, and trying to rationalize on both fronts doesnt make me less of a person. Do I feel it was wrong, unprofessional and negative in every way, shape and form? Yes! Do I feel the seller had a right to? Yes, if the contract so stipulated.

However as the agent I would have advised against it. Now if its a transactional brokerage relationship however the realtor CANNOT advise the client, nor can he disclose any info to the buyer vice versa. The transactional broker is simply a middle man.

Now if its a single agent relationship then the realtor can advise the principal. If a single agent relationship existed (and you can review the contract for that) then you CAN go after the realtor and the brokerage the realtor represents (when you sue a realtor your actually suing the brokerage, realtors are simply "arms" of the brokerage).

I rarely see an episode like this happen because it is almost a business code that once a contract has been agreed upon you are bound with ethics to stick with that deal no matter how good of an offer you get after.

Please do not insult me or any of the others on this board for trying to look through BOTH perspectives. I was simply pointing out that the contract may have had a clause allowing the seller to backout of the contract if their was no deposit (backing out of a contract w/o a deposit is completely legal in Florida btw).

However, as you probably know you can be sued for ANYTHING. The courts CAN order the seller to sell to your friend. It is available but rarely used. If you have that contract in writing with the sellers signature and your friends then the court can and will force this douche bag into selling the house at the AGREED price. If you want to exercise this I recommend filing within the next few weeks or atleast before the seller can sell the house to the other buyer.

Good luck and let us know what your friend plans on doing.

BTW what was the name of the realty that the sellers agent came from? Ill see if I can find anything on them. And for the sake of all the TF members lets see how they like business after this. Its the publics right to know which realty is comprised of morons and which is full of professionals. My father owns a century 21 branch and has never backed out of a contract for a higher price ever (we buy/sell houses in south tampa, lots of offers). Once a contract is in place and the buyer is serious the that is it, we are bound by ethics. If we play by the game then I would expect other more established branches to atleast follow suit.

[corey r.]

After dropping the bickering weeks ago, Scott takes a swing, I respond, and my post gets edited. Some things never change.

Back on topic....

[corey r.]

I love it when I make a valid point and my post gets edited. and it gets called drama.

[XtremeVision]

Scott takes a swing, I respond, and my post gets edited. Some things never change.

suprise suprise...I have come to realize its a 1 way street and hes allowed to say and do as he pleases and all the regular everyday users of TF have to keep our mouths shut or we get threats from big bad scott about being banned...it gets annoying after a while and I dont understand the reasoning behind it...this site is for people to give there opinions and to discuss topics...just like we do all the time but guess only pleaseing material is accepted.... :wtf:

[Amortized]

Oh please, dont flatter me. I have a spine, and trying to rationalize on both fronts doesnt make me less of a person. Do I feel it was wrong, unprofessional and negative in every way, shape and form? Yes! Do I feel the seller had a right to? Yes, if the contract so stipulated.

However as the agent I would have advised against it. Now if its a transactional brokerage relationship however the realtor CANNOT advise the client, nor can he disclose any info to the buyer vice versa. The transactional broker is simply a middle man.

Now if its a single agent relationship then the realtor can advise the principal. If a single agent relationship existed (and you can review the contract for that) then you CAN go after the realtor and the brokerage the realtor represents (when you sue a realtor your actually suing the brokerage, realtors are simply "arms" of the brokerage).

I rarely see an episode like this happen because it is almost a business code that once a contract has been agreed upon you are bound with ethics to stick with that deal no matter how good of an offer you get after.

Please do not insult me or any of the others on this board for trying to look through BOTH perspectives. I was simply pointing out that the contract may have had a clause allowing the seller to backout of the contract if their was no deposit (backing out of a contract w/o a deposit is completely legal in Florida btw).

However, as you probably know you can be sued for ANYTHING. The courts CAN order the seller to sell to your friend. It is available but rarely used. If you have that contract in writing with the sellers signature and your friends then the court can and will force this douche bag into selling the house at the AGREED price. If you want to exercise this I recommend filing within the next few weeks or atleast before the seller can sell the house to the other buyer.

Good luck and let us know what your friend plans on doing.

BTW what was the name of the realty that the sellers agent came from? Ill see if I can find anything on them. And for the sake of all the TF members lets see how they like business after this. Its the publics right to know which realty is comprised of morons and which is full of professionals. My father owns a century 21 branch and has never backed out of a contract for a higher price ever (we buy/sell houses in south tampa, lots of offers). Once a contract is in place and the buyer is serious the that is it, we are bound by ethics. If we play by the game then I would expect other more established branches to atleast follow suit.

you can look at it from both ways if you want, however the escape clause really shouldn't be used to take a higher offer. Its more so to allow a seller to back out if an out of state job offer fell through, seller came down with cancer and wants to live their final month in the home they've lived in for years, and other extenuating circumstances like this. The law may say one thing, but ethics dictate otherwise. You shouldn't sign a contract if you don't intend to sell, simple as that.

[Scott]

After dropping the bickering weeks ago, Scott takes a swing, I respond, and my post gets edited. Some things never change.

Back on topic....



Takes a swing ? I am not suprised you made that comment, so what ? Deal with it.

FYI I did not edit your post and do not have control panel access on TF, so cry me a river.

According to your thread you edited it, sounds like you are trying to mislead.

"Last edited by corey r. : Today at 11:13 AM. "

Now back on topic.

[Scott]

suprise suprise...I have come to realize its a 1 way street and hes allowed to say and do as he pleases and all the regular everyday users of TF have to keep our mouths shut or we get threats from big bad scott about being banned...it gets annoying after a while and I dont understand the reasoning behind it...this site is for people to give there opinions and to discuss topics...just like we do all the time but guess only pleaseing material is accepted.... :wtf:


Suprise suprise see my above reply to Corey, once again you have no clue.

Leave it to you to pop off at the mouth about something that does not pertain to you.

The one way street you speak only applies to the few random assholes that can't seem to mind their own business.

You know where the door is if you don't agree.

[Scott]

The law may say one thing, but ethics dictate otherwise. You shouldn't sign a contract if you don't intend to sell, simple as that.



There you have it (well said) and I guess some feel throwing ethics to the wind and collecting more money is o.k. in some cases. :dunno: Personally I would not be able to sleep at night no matter how much more money it was not to mention knowing these people now have no place to live, having morals sucks sometimes I guess.

[corey r.]

my post was edited, when that happens by a person other than me, it wont show that persons name. I went back in at 11:13 and re changed it. I would think an admin would know all about this.

[Scott]

my post was edited, when that happens by a person other than me, it wont show that persons name. I went back in at 11:13 and re changed it. I would think an admin would know all about this.


I do know all about this (throwing jabs ? ) but as I stated I do not have control panel access on TF like I do TR so all I can see is what was done last.

But thanks for clearing that up and have a marvelous day !

[Epicman]

my post was edited, when that happens by a person other than me, it wont show that persons name. I went back in at 11:13 and re changed it. I would think an admin would know all about this.

Rather than accusing Scott why don't you PM one of the other admins, maybe one that can edit posts on TF, and ask them what's going on?

[John]

because that would be the logical, mature thing to do, duh! :rolleyes:

[Dunecune442]

jesus tittie fucking christ do we have to have drama in every god damned thread? I dont care if your a moderator or not, you should NOT be provoking anyone. The responsible and mature thing to do would have been to just let the argument die and take it to the private messaging system.

God damn we cant even have a bit of maturity between two people in the fucking investment forum.

[Amortized]

Back on topic or ......I blow this place up!!!!!

[Amortized]

There you have it (well said) and I guess some feel throwing ethics to the wind and collecting more money is o.k. in some cases. :dunno: Personally I would not be able to sleep at night no matter how much more money it was not to mention knowing these people now have no place to live, having morals sucks sometimes I guess.

oh no, having morals pays off with a good reputation, with a good reputation comes steady referal streams.

[Scott]

oh no, having morals pays off with a good reputation, with a good reputation comes steady referal streams.


10-4 on the referrals so your logic is correct. :bigthumb:

Now after eight years in the business about 70% of my business (exactly 60% last year) is referrals. Either old customers coming back or them sending me friends / family. I hardly run ads for new business anymore even though I gladly take it on when it comes.

[DookieLuv!]

I'll take the 25k any day of the week, SOLD to the highest bidder. I have no vested intrest where those people live or when they buy a house. I dont believe in karma. And I bet absolutely nothing happens to the sellers or the agent, its all talk from disgruntled people.

[Dunecune442]

I'll take the 25k any day of the week, SOLD to the highest bidder. I have no vested intrest where those people live or when they buy a house. I dont believe in karma. And I bet absolutely nothing happens to the sellers or the agent, its all talk from disgruntled people.


Then you would fail utterly in real estate and earn a bad reputation among investors (who are very well connected btw). Good luck in real estate buddy ;-)

[Scott]

I'll take the 25k any day of the week, SOLD to the highest bidder. I have no vested intrest where those people live or when they buy a house. I dont believe in karma. And I bet absolutely nothing happens to the sellers or the agent, its all talk from disgruntled people.



So put yourself in the buyers shoes.

He probably has kids that have been enrolled in school, he and his wife have probably accepted jobs, movers have been arranged, there current home is probably sold, and they have their hearts set on this home after looking at several.

If knowing that does not bother you and would you "take" the money, you are seriously self centered and egotistical. :nono:

[DookieLuv!]

So put yourself in the buyers shoes.

He probably has kids that have been enrolled in school, he and his wife have probably accepted jobs, movers have been arranged, there current home is probably sold, and they have their hearts set on this home after looking at several.

If knowing that does not bother you and would you "take" the money, you are seriously self centered and egotistical. :nono:hmmm, I guess so then.

[DookieLuv!]

Good luck in real estate buddy ;-)um....thanks?

[Dunecune442]

So put yourself in the buyers shoes.


If knowing that does not bother you and would you "take" the money, you are seriously self centered and egotistical. :nono:


Bleh :-P

But yeah, people plan alot once a contract is accepted. Its not very easy for the general public to buy a home and they arent use to setbacks like this. It may be easy for someone like yourself to shrug it off FUCT, but for the working class its not very easy.

And BTW, when I said good luck I was def. being a smartass, I hope you fail at life you fucktard :-P

[DookieLuv!]

I hope you fail at life you fucktard :-PRemember.....Karma!!

[Dunecune442]

hey I never said anything about karma, that was scott!

[Scott]

Laugh all you want at the karma comment but if I had a dollar every time some young wise ass ;) laughed it off and then fell into some bad luck for previously dicking someone over I would be able to buy Will a conscience. :lol: