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Scott
03-15-2006, 08:37 AM
About damn time !

I wonder if this scoring system will turn out to be as big a mystery as the last one ?


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The nation's three major consumer credit bureaus have created a new credit scoring system designed to make it easier for financial institutions to evaluate loan applications and to give consumers a better way of measuring their financial health.

The credit reporting agencies — Equifax, Experian and TransUnion — announced Tuesday that they're introducing "VantageScore" to banks, mortgage lenders and credit card companies immediately. The new scores will be available to consumers after the lender rollout, probably later this year.

"There's clearly been a need out there to have a consistent scoring model that works across all three reporting agencies' data," said Kerry Williams, group president of Experian's credit services division. "And consumers need a consistent score that they can understand and use in their own financial lives."

Credit scores traditionally have been three-digit numbers that lenders used to evaluate the creditworthiness of borrowers. The scores reflect how much debt a consumer is carrying, how good they've been at paying back loans and how many credit applications they have outstanding.

They're important because lenders use them to determine if they'll loan money to consumers and at what rate. The higher the score, the more creditworthy the consumer is considered and the lower the interest rate the consumer will be charged.

The agencies in the past each used their own proprietary formulas to generate their own scores, meaning that a lender dealing with a consumer's application for a credit card or a mortgage might have to reconcile three widely different scores.

With the new system, a single methodology will be used to create the scores for all three credit bureaus, the agencies said.

As a result, scores will be "virtually the same across all three of the national credit reporting companies," said Experian spokesman Donald Girard. Any difference in the scores provided by each agency will reflect differences in the data they've collected in consumers' files, he said.

The credit reporting agencies said in their announcement that VantageScore "will provide consumers and businesses with a highly predictive, consistent score that is easy to understand and apply."

Consumer advocacy groups expressed concern that the new scoring system would not eliminate one of the biggest problems in the industry which is incorrect information in consumers' credit files.

"That means it's a new recipe, but the same old ingredients," said Jean Ann Fox, director of consumer protection with the nonprofit Consumer Federation of America in Washington, D.C. "It doesn't address the underlying accuracy of the credit reports on which the scores are based."

In addition to the credit agency scores, some large lenders generate their own internal scores, often using credit bureau data. And many lenders, especially those in the mortgage business, use FICO scores, which are named for the Minneapolis-based Fair, Isaac Corp. that developed them.

Thomas G. Grudnowski, the chief executive officer of Fair, Isaac, said that "for the past 20 years, we've been both cooperating and competing with the credit bureaus ... and that will continue." He added that it could take a long time to establish a competing system.

"Do the customers ... really want to go through the pain of converting to another system?" he asked. "I think only time will tell."

Dana Wiklund, senior vice president for predictive sciences at Equifax, said that VantageScore "is a new, competitive product to give lenders greater choice, and hopefully greater accuracy, in credit scoring." He added: "The rate of adoption will determine ultimately if the (new) score replaces any in-house or generic scores in the market."

Executives at the credit agencies said that the bureaus did not need to consult with federal regulators before developing their new scoring process. But a number of executives, including Wiklund, traveled to Washington, D.C., on Monday to brief bank, savings bank and credit union regulators on the new scoring process.

"The role of the regulators is to look at the safety and soundness of the institutions they oversee," Wiklund said. "They're very keenly interested so that models don't have disparate impact ... on low income vs. high income individuals, minority vs. non-minority, that kind of thing."

VantageScore ratings will range from 501 to 990. The top end is slightly higher than scores currently in use.

In a separate statement, Experian said the new scores will be grouped on "the familiar academic scale." Experian gave these groupings, with A and B being the best potential borrowers and D and F being the weakest:

A — 901-990

B — 801-900

C — 701-800

D — 601-700

F — 501-600

Colleen Tunney, spokeswoman for TransUnion, told a conference call with reporters and credit industry representatives that the new score was created by looking at millions of consumer files at the same time to ensure consistent readings across the three bureaus' data.

David Rubinger, spokesman for Equifax, said the new score was expected to reduce the variance in a consumer's scores by about 30 percent compared with what it was under the old system.

He said the score would reflect a consumer's frequency of borrowing, delinquency in paying bills and other "file content." But Rubinger and other credit bureau spokesmen said it was too soon to provide the specific weights for the components.

VantageScore is being independently marketed and sold separately through each of the three national credit reporting companies through licensing agreements with VantageScore Solutions LLC, the joint announcement said. The spokesmen said that VantageScore was jointly owned by the three credit bureaus. They said it did not yet have a headquarters, although an informational Web site had been set up at http://www.vantagescore.com.

The credit reporting agencies are operated by Equifax Inc. of Atlanta, Experian Information Solutions Inc. of Costa Mesa, Calif., and TransUnion LLC of Chicago.

Just Dave
03-15-2006, 08:53 AM
So why do we need 3 different credit beureau's if all the scores will be almost the same?

moldyhands
03-15-2006, 09:17 AM
So why do we need 3 different credit beureau's if all the scores will be almost the same?
good point, but at least if one is wildly off, you'll have two others possibly with the right info.

as for the rating system, i haven't checked out the website, but i hope 2-5 day late payments don't hurt the credit. i never seem to pay my bills on time:lol: but my credit seems to be fine.

Scott
03-15-2006, 10:09 AM
So why do we need 3 different credit beureau's if all the scores will be almost the same?



Was thinking the same thing when reading the article

coolcloo1019
03-15-2006, 10:15 AM
So in the mortgage industry or I guess everywhere a credit score is used. Is it now going to be: "Sorry, you have an F for a credit score, can't help you."?

TNathe
03-15-2006, 10:27 AM
it's about time they standardized this. You had 3 companies reporting the same thing but somehow the data was different between all three. I think this is definately a change for the good of both consumers and lenders.

Amortized
03-15-2006, 10:31 AM
the only problem they're solving with this is large variations in scores amongst the 3 bureaus. The biggest problem is the lack of accuracy, not variations.

moldyhands
03-15-2006, 10:50 AM
the only problem they're solving with this is large variations in scores amongst the 3 bureaus. The biggest problem is the lack of accuracy, not variations.
agreed, and with lack of accuracy, i'd lump in lack of accountability. everyone seems to hate regulation, but there should be a quick and easy way to dispute incorrect information with the credit bureaus, and hefty fines if things aren't straightened out in good faith.

Epicman
03-15-2006, 11:26 AM
the only problem they're solving with this is large variations in scores amongst the 3 bureaus. The biggest problem is the lack of accuracy, not variations.

:werd:

I see it a lot on credit reports. Hell, with my dad and myself. Our credit reports are completely mixed up. Even our bdays are screwed up. His bday is 12/28/55 mine is 12/20/82. Well, on my credit report it shows 12/28/82 and his shows 12/20/55. Not to mention everything else. We've disputed this stuff constantly and everytime it gets added back in. I have loans on my credit report from 1993 when I was 10.