linux/xgl

[Eluzzionz]

havent really been into linux before..i tried it out about 5yrs ago with knopix and havent ever really looked back...well about a month or so ago i saw a video of ubuntu linux with xgl installed...and honestly it looks amazing...and just yesterday found a video of a guy with it installed on a touch screen and holy shit its awesome....just curious if anyone else on here has experience with it etc...im in the middle of installing it now on this computer..i was told fodera was better then this ubuntu but its already installed and im awaiting the very long install for this stuff...like i said im a total noob to linux and this stuff is very confusing and takes a while to install something that you would think to be simple...i can definitely say that i do appreciate windows and the ease of use on it..but i think ill warm up to this linux sooner or later and try to understand it better...anyway...i guess itd be helpful to hear what other people have to say about this program etc...or any help to make me better with linux etc...

heres the link just incase you'd like to watch it: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6313613059572588466&q=xgl+touchscreen&hl=en

[...mikey]

Linux is nice after you get it all setup and get your scripts and shit running.

You'll use XGL for a few hours.

Anyway, make sure you run automatix for Ubuntu. www.getautomatix.com

It will make the trip down aggrevating-as-fuck-OS-lane a bit less frustrating for a newb.

[Zate]

yes install ubuntu, use automatrix, follow one of the guides on the ubuntu forums to install Beryl (next version of Ubuntu will have it by default).

post up if you have questions..

[Eluzzionz]

thanks guys i will try that...and this shit is def annoying but i need to learn it...i will def try to get all this running

[Eluzzionz]

ok got the automatix2 installed and i do like that..very easy...beryl? i guess ill start searching for that...so mikey ur saying the xgl isnt worth it? im still a little lost on how to get it running just yet...but im sure ill eventually figure it out...i need to install my video card for this computer becuz im pretty damn sure the onboard wont run this...since i have this set up on my dell computer...

[Zate]

yep install the vid card.

install the correct drivers for that card (nvidia or ati)

once you have the 3d working you install Beryl ..

there are plenty of walkthroughs for this on the ubuntu wiki and forums site.

[Eluzzionz]

ok im having problems with the automatix2...it installed fine and comes up fine..but when i click on stuff to install it errors? am im forgetting something or missing something info plz..ty

[...mikey]

Telling us your error would help

I'm assuming you're not running it as root and it's getting access denied when it tries to mkdir's


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Why do you NEED to learn Linux? So many people into computers are under this pretense that they NEED to learn Linux, and never have any reason as to why other than it being different or cool.

If you want to spend hours setting it up, enjoy. I'll stick to Windows on the desktop and run Linux when I have to (LAMP/CSS servers).

You could always compile your own kernel and have it set up exactly how you want each install, but that's nowhere near your level right now.

[Eluzzionz]

well your right i dont NEED to ..but id love to learn..not because its "cool" but it may come in use...plus i dont have anything better to do right now....as far as the error..it just says an apt based error occured and installation was unsuccessful

[Eluzzionz]

damn this stuff is confusing..i found a walk through but im lost on adding these repositories to my source.list??? it says what its suppose to look like etc...but not really sure how to add..im assuming i do this through the terminal?..this is only my first day on linux so i prolly sound real retarded right now...anyway thx for the help

[...mikey]

The repository list is a simple text file. You need to open it in a text editor and add the universal lines like the how to says. You also need to remove the comment lines # from most of them.

Either use vi or a text editor in the GUI.

I suggest you find a better walk through, Linux isn't something we to be walked through, it's something to follow directions yourself through.

[Zate]

i dont get why you think Linux is so difficult mikey ?

its pretty easy once you get some of the basic concepts down and "let go" of the windows way of thinking.

but regardless.. learning linux is pretty fun, and very useful... dont knock the guy for askin questions..its how people learn.

[Zate]

damn this stuff is confusing..i found a walk through but im lost on adding these repositories to my source.list??? it says what its suppose to look like etc...but not really sure how to add..im assuming i do this through the terminal?..this is only my first day on linux so i prolly sound real retarded right now...anyway thx for the help

start here --> http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=73

[...mikey]

i dont get why you think Linux is so difficult mikey ?

its pretty easy once you get some of the basic concepts down and "let go" of the windows way of thinking.

but regardless.. learning linux is pretty fun, and very useful... dont knock the guy for askin questions..its how people learn.

I don't think it's difficult. I think it's annoying as shit and not worth my time as a desktop OS.

I know for a newbie it is difficult as hell.

I remember specifically how long it took me to figure out just how to edit/quit/write files in vi.

Something that is simple for you and I, you need to think back to when you were a Nix newbie and remember how that was. :wq! what?

[Eluzzionz]

ok i am retarded..the reason i couldnt figure it out i was looking past the source.list..i kept goin into a file called source.list.d and nothing was in there...so now i see what to do and understand that a lot better...but thanks for the help so far..and i dont mind getting ragged on i am new and going to ask some stupid ass ?s ....but thanks for explaining..as far as the list...its a read only and when i try to change that it says im not the owner? do i have to access something else to make that work?

[Vito_Corleone]

sudo

[Eluzzionz]

i was told like to get owner ship get into the root and type chmod 7777 then the place of the file and that will give me permission to change the file?

[...mikey]

Or you just type su root and login with the root account.

Or sudo vi sources.list it.

Do you understand all you're trying to do is open the file up as an administrator?

[Zate]

anything with .d (dot d) is a directory (folder) used to house configurations. For instance, if you were to add a file i that folder with a list of repositories, it would be added to your list automatically..

the command Vito listed, sudo is short for "super user do" i think .. basically it lets you run a command as the root or super user. some files and some processes are owned by root and only able to be modified by him (or her) .. so you use sudo in front of the command to execute that command as the root user.

never chmod anything to 7777, always work out the correct amount of user permissions needed to do something, or use sudo to run/edit it.

try reading this --> http://linux-newbie.dotsrc.org/html/lnag.html#4.Basic%20Operations%20FAQ

and this --> http://linux-newbie.dotsrc.org/html/lnag.html#6.Linux%20Shortcuts%20and%20Commands

and this ia great start http://www.linuxnewbieguide.org/ (its ubuntu specific too.. although ubuntu 5.10 but 99% of it still applies)

when it gets down to it.. just about all of the distributions are the same under the hood, with just a few tweaks on top to distinguish them.. they all run the same shell.. they all generally layout things very similar.. they all include mostly the same software and use the same kernel .. so learning the basics means you can work on any of them.

[Eluzzionz]

thanks guys and yes i do realize that..but i mean ive used windows all my life..so bare with me on doing some of this..i think once i learn the basics i will be alright..like i had no idea what sudo meant and why that was used...but thanks for clearing somethings up..

[Eluzzionz]

ok im still lost ... everytime i try to change permissions or whatever...its always saying the directory or file doesnt exist... is this incorrect?... /ect/apt/sources.list thats the file location...so i dont understand why it cant find it? and also i read up on the chmod and found out the difference in the 4 digits and what is what sort of....from what im gathering...0-7 is the level or something? and theres the chmod with letters...so for instance would i type something like chmod rw (for read and write) /ect/apt/sources.list so i could write in the code and save? i read some of those links but not all the way through cuz i just dont understand why its not finding this file?

[Eluzzionz]

ok i just figured out some of what they were talking about and added the site i needed ...i didnt realize when they mentioned go through synaptic....they were referring to synaptic package manager...i guess im just not use to things in here enough for that to catch my eye

[Zate]

not quite.. the 7 is like this

R (read) is 4
W (write) is 2
X (execute) is 1

so when you give something rwx (read, write and execute) its 7. 5 would be R and X ... 3 is WX

the main 3 you need to worry about are owner, group and everyone else.

so 775 is rwx for the owner, rwx for the group and rx for everyone else.

do a google search for linux permissions howto.

[Zate]

synaptic is cool.. and you can manage your sources from in it if you like.. without having to edit the file.

i like using aptitude because its command line and it remembers more about what you install.

[Eluzzionz]

zate i really appreciate the help and explanations...thanks

[hacker style]

http://qunu.com/

this can help as well

[Vito_Corleone]

You don't need to change the permissions of the file, you want to be root or use sudo when you edit the file...