Convince me not to vote for Ron Paul

[spoonfed]

I dare ya!!!

[jabtay]

Other than he will not be nominated, i say go for it.

[HullBreach]

Convince me not to vote for my Cat! He has as much chance of getting elected, and unlike Ron Paul, he occaisonally keeps my feet warm.

[Chuck 98 RT/10]

Blah. At this point a vote for RP or anyone like that is more of a "fuck you" message to the establishment.

It looks like Romney is gonna be the one, unless the Dems successfully prop McCain like they've been trying to do.

[Tackleberry]

start looking for your alternative candidate

[Kryptix]

If the conservatives were really the conservatives they would be all over Ron Paul. If he won the nomination, he could make the Republican party stay in power for another 20 years atleast. Unfortunately for the right wingers, they have screwed thiings up so bad that the public wants change and they will get it. I say vote for Ron Paul if you ar a Republican.

If McCain wins; the Republican party will fall apart. Same thing for Huckabee or Giuliani.

[jabtay]

If the conservatives were really the conservatives they would be all over Ron Paul. If he won the nomination, he could make the Republican party stay in power for another 20 years atleast. Unfortunately for the right wingers, they have screwed thiings up so bad that the public wants change and they will get it. I say vote for Ron Paul if you ar a Republican.

If McCain wins; the Republican party will fall apart. Same thing for Huckabee or Giuliani.
I agree...That is why the Dems are pushing for mccain so hard. +1, he is very beatable, #2 he is very beatable, #3 Romney would put up a hell of a fight.

As of now, the way I see it, Romney is going to get it, unless people throw their votes away and essentially give votes to mccain.

[BigBadBuick]

I can't. Every time I begin to entertain the idea of voting for someone with a better chance to keep McCain out I see a fox report that doesn't mention Paul and it makes me want to cast my 'fuck you' vote all that much more. Maybe fox is trying to reverse psychology Paul in to office, lol.

Kryptix, this is probably the first time I have agreed with a post of yours for the most part. Probably the last as well, lol.

[Topless T/A]

I think he does a good enough job on his own convincing everyone not to vote for him :lol:

[blurboEK]

I can't. Every time I begin to entertain the idea of voting for someone with a better chance to keep McCain out I see a fox report that doesn't mention Paul and it makes me want to cast my 'fuck you' vote all that much more. Maybe fox is trying to reverse psychology Paul in to office, lol.

Kryptix, this is probably the first time I have agreed with a post of yours for the most part. Probably the last as well, lol.

Maybe this will help you understand Fox view of Ron Paul..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_sW1yGcIz0

:lol:

[Elohim]

Ron Paul won't get the nomination, I can say that with confidence and dispair. I'm a strong supporter of Dr. Paul but it's just not going to happen. He would do a lot better in Florida if they allowed voters to choose their party rather then making you vote within party lines and excluding independents. I'm still casting my "fuck you" vote because if you don't vote for Ron Paul your voting for the status qoe, and thats true with the dems as well. Hopefully our support will convince him to run as an independent for the election and he might just have the support he needs but even then the media won't treat him fairly so it's very discouraging.

[PPGMD]

Why should people not in the party get to choose who runs for that party? It's not like you have to pay dues or anything to register as a Democrat or a Republican.

I also hope he doesn't run as a independent because it will ensure that a Democrat gets elected, just like in 1992.

[blurboEK]

..it will ensure that a Democrat gets elected, just like in 1992.

that would be a good thing how?

[PPGMD]

that would be a good thing how?

That's why I said I hope he doesn't run as an independent.

[SilentBob86]

im still voting...Too bad they've already proved voter fraud on RP in a few counties in NH and iowa...:roll:

There was one county were he had 30 votes and then when they marked it down he had 0....but it was "human error"
:roll:

Michael Rivero of "WhatReallyHappened.com" posted a link to an article on his site today. Below it, he wrote:

"I received numerous emails from Iowans who had participated in the Caucus, and they were reporting Ron Paul wins in the rooms they voted in."

January 4th, 2008 at 6:56 pm
LIKELY VOTE COUNT FRAUD IN IOWA REPUBLICAN CAUCUS UNDER INVESTIGATION.
Former FBI Division Chief, Ted Gunderson sent a private investigator to Iowa for the republican caucus.
This investigator discovered suspicious VOTE COUNT activity that may prove that Dr. Ron Paul and his supporters are victims of fraud. The investigation is continuing and a full report is forthcoming.

The head clerk of the New Hampshire town of Sutton has been forced to admit that Ron Paul received 31 votes yet when the final amount was transferred to a summary sheet and sent out to the media, the total was listed as ZERO.
UPDATE JAN 9 9am PST: TOWN OF SUTTON CONFIRMS RON PAUL TOTALS WERE 31, NOT ZERO.

I just got off the phone with Jennifer Call, Town Clerk for Sutton. She confirmed that the Ron Paul totals in Sutton were actually 31, and said that they were "left off the tally sheet" and it was human error.Link (http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_ron_corv_080109_new_hampshire_electi.htm)

[moldyhands]

voting is for lame-Os!!!

if you vote, then you're not cool!!!

[billybongthorton]

hes a dirty goat fucker i only vote for horse fuckers

[Decoy_TT]

Vote for ron paul if you want 100,000+ people lose their jobs!

Vote for Ron Paul if you want the dismantaling of every government organization, regardless of the severity of it's impact!

Vote for Ron Paul if you want the Fed gone, which has been the most succesful bank and long lasting bank the USA has ever seen!

Vote for Ron Paul if you want to completely ignore what is going on in the middle east, regardless of the impacts that will have 10-15 years down the road!

Guy is retarded.

[BigBadBuick]

Guy is retarded.

So is anyone that thinks the President has the power to do the things you list by himself.

[Decoy_TT]

ps: All Ron Paul would have had to do was tone down all his extremely radical viewpoints just a hair and he would have had my vote.

[Decoy_TT]

So is anyone that thinks the President has the power to do the things you list by himself.

In that case, why are people blaming Bush for Iraq and all the other shit that has happened during his administration?

Apparently, he isn't responsible for those?

please. I would have agreed with you that the Pres is more a figurehead then anything until Bush came. I think it's apparent that the Pres can get quite a bit of crazy shit done.

[SilentBob86]

ps: All Ron Paul would have had to do was tone down all his extremely radical viewpoints just a hair and he would have had my vote.
But that would of undermined what he's always been praised for, sticking to his guns 110%

[BAMF]

So is anyone that thinks the President has the power to do the things you list by himself.

So is anyone who thinks that the tired, played out response you gave is a valid response. Who the hell is going to elect a president who wants to do those things in the first place?

[Decoy_TT]

But that would of undermined what he's always been praised for, sticking to his guns 110%

His guns would have worked 200 years ago. Not this day and age.

[98MODMTR]

So is anyone that thinks the President has the power to do the things you list by himself.

Good point.

[Decoy_TT]

Good point.

No,it's a terrible fucking point. The same people that say that are the same people that are blaming bush for all the shit we are in right now...

It's just they say it because it's their candidate they want to defend.

hypocritical

[jabtay]

But that would of undermined what he's always been praised for, sticking to his guns 110%
And thats what cost him the nomination. He came off as a lunatic, so i wouldnt vote for him.

[SilentBob86]

eehhh, in about a week im going and dropping his name in a ballot box, after that theres not really much i can do about who gets elected till it come time to choose one of two....or ill just write him in...

[BigBadBuick]

In that case, why are people blaming Bush for Iraq and all the other shit that has happened during his administration

Politics. Plain and simple. A lot of the people blaming the President are also the same people that voted to go into Iraq. If public opinion were better, they'd be bragging about their support of the war. The same formula can be applied to just about everything that happens in Washington. Good, make yourself part of it, bad, distance yourself and point your finger. As I'm sure you know, RP did not vote to go into Iraq.
So is anyone who thinks that the tired, played out response you gave is a valid response. Who the hell is going to elect a president who wants to do those things in the first place?
Me.
I think everyone can agree to some point that this country is in trouble. How bad and why are always up for debate, but the only thing that has stayed consistent during our downward spiral is growth of our government. We've got candidates that are status quo Washington insiders that just want their turn at the wheel, we've got candidates that want to expand the roll of the federal government, we've got candidates that possibly want to use the oval office to force their ideals upon the masses, then we have this guy. I don't agree with everything he says, but good luck finding a candidate you agree with 100%. I think the exact details of what he wants to do are not worth arguing over because he probably wouldn't be able to get one thing he wants to do passed any way. I would like to see him in Washington because while everyone's fighting with him about his "lunatic plans" the government isn't growing. They aren't creating any new government robin hood redistribution programs, they aren't infringing on anyone's rights, they aren't getting deeper into any individual's or business's day to day existence, they're just fighting to keep their pre-existing bureaucracy alive. I'd love to see the brakes put on, even if it was only for four years. If he did manage to shrink the government a little bit, it would just be icing on the cake.



No,it's a terrible fucking point. The same people that say that are the same people that are blaming bush for all the shit we are in right now...

It's just they say it because it's their candidate they want to defend.

hypocritical
Man, where did you come up with that? Certainly not from anything I've said. Blaming all that is wrong on Bush by himself is letting way too many people off the hook.

So, do you think everything is Bush's and only Bush's fault? Either you do and your statement about Paul is based on your beliefs, or you don't and you're being a hypocrite :wink:

[jabtay]

im still voting...Too bad they've already proved voter fraud on RP in a few counties in NH and iowa...:roll:

There was one county were he had 30 votes and then when they marked it down he had 0....but it was "human error"
:roll:



Link (http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_ron_corv_080109_new_hampshire_electi.htm)
this coming from the same type of person that claims 9-11 was an inside job.

[SilentBob86]

this coming from the same type of person that claims 9-11 was an inside job.
And what does that have to do with this....those are reliable sources my friend. Just because i have my own beliefs dosent mean that what im saying is irrelavant(sp). Wow....come on now, lets not try to bias peoples opinions of someone to complete your own anti RP agenda bub....:lol:


And i was kidding about the anti RP agenda....but you part of a group of people that seem to get some sort of satisfaction out of bashing RP and seeing him fail soooo... :crack:

[TampaDude]

I'm voting for Ron Paul on Tuesday in the FL primary. After that, we'll see if the GOP nominates a candidate that isn't a total asshole.

[Tripw0l]

Honestly, I'd vote for RP if I thought he had a chance at getting elected. I don't think he's unelectable because of what he wants to do, I think he's unelectable because people are paranoid of what might happen if we step off of the gravy train that's currently traveling on a bridge to nowhere. No one wants to shake anything up even though our current system is corrupt and they know it. No one's willing to take a chance to get our economy or security off of the boom or bust formula. We currently have an overbearing and unsustainable foreign policy with the Middle East and it's the same story with credit and inflation rates. We're either flying high with our windfall profits or our stock market is crashing. We're either overthrowing dictators to satisfy OPEC or we're under terrorist attack.

We don't see the ground until we're already buried. For me, RP is that sustainable middle ground but people can't be bothered with that.

[Josh]

We don't see the ground until we're already buried. For me, RP is that sustainable middle ground but people can't be bothered with that.

that would involve people sacrificing their "meal ticket" for what's right....sadly - most folks would sell their soul for a dollar.

[oh1coupe]

I voted for RP, to stregthen his statement. I dont think hes the best man for the job, but hes the only one that speaks from principals, instead of speaking from the "wtf do these people want to hear" portion of the politicians mind. So I have a pretty good idea what hes going to do when he takes office. That makes sense to me.

Sure i dont agree with his foreign policy 100%, but hes explained it and it follows a line of logic. What the Us has done since ww2......just doesn't seem to make sense, or follow any train of logic. So to be fair, I guess nobody has ever won me over with a foreign policy. And its not something that other candidates are clearly laying out.

I think its really sad that so many people can't appreciate what the common man has been asking for in a candidate for years....a honest man who speaks from principal.

[jabtay]

And i was kidding about the anti RP agenda....but you part of a group of people that seem to get some sort of satisfaction out of bashing RP and seeing him fail soooo... :crack:
Im not really anti RP. I just dont see him getting the nom. Now if he does get nominated, I will assuredly vote for him in the general election...even though some of his stances scare the shit out of me....but what do i know, im a destructo-Con

[billybongthorton]

well lets put it this way every vote for ron paul, chuck norris will strangle 10 newborn babies with there umbilical cords

[TampaDude]

well lets put it this way every vote for ron paul, chuck norris will strangle 10 newborn babies with there umbilical cords

Sweet...will this be on PPV??? :lol:

[billybongthorton]

for americas sake i hope so its better than that lie detector show id rather watch babies get stragled cause goodlord sometimes its needed some people dont need to procreate

[TNathe]

Honestly, I'd vote for RP if I thought he had a chance at getting elected.

:wtf: guy, "I would vote for him if i though he'd get elected.." are you serious...are you worried about picking the person that is gonna win or are you worried about voting for the person YOU want in office?

[PPGMD]

:wtf: guy, "I would vote for him if i though he'd get elected.." are you serious...are you worried about picking the person that is gonna win or are you worried about voting for the person YOU want in office?

Even he gets the nomination and doesn't win the general election and we get something much worse then the second or third choice candidates (who might win the general election) did we really accomplish anything?

Anyways it seems to me that most RP supporters are independents and moderate democrats. He only has a very small support base from Republicans as a whole, and no count would be enough to win the general election.

[TNathe]

well it would be hard to tell wouldnt it? seeing as how apparently theirs already fraud hurting his chances....such BS really, i cant really beleive i just read that...fuck the entire system, just goes to show you no matter how correct you try to make it ur vote dont count for shit, unless its the popular one..

[ClrWtrDsgnr]

I think he does a good enough job on his own convincing everyone not to vote for him :lol:

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