View Full Version : OMG Ron Paul media conspiracy devolopment!!111!
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A big picture of his squirly looking mug is on the CNN front page with the snippet:
Candidates make Super Tuesday pitches
Voters in 24 states are heading to the polls today for Super Tuesday, virtually a national primary day. Candidates are busy making last minute appeals. Republican Ron Paul told the West Virginia GOP convention he is "the most conservative member of Congress." developing story
Great quote. :lol: What ever happened to this guy? Who did he throw his support to?
Iroc Joe
02-05-2008, 12:34 PM
Umm, genius, he is.
We dirty libertarian types look back to a Senator named Barry Goldwater for a majority of our inspiration. Goldwater wrote a book, "The Conscience of the Conservative." His nickname was "Mr. Conservative."
This is completely different than the more modern interpretation of liberal/conservative. Goldwater was very socially liberal. To quote him, "You don't have to be straight to serve in the military, you have to be able to shoot straight." That is but one example. Goldwater was very polarizing to the emerging evangelical, religious right, going so far as to tell them not to associate his name in anything they do, they have hurt the Republican party more than the Democrats have.
Topless T/A
02-05-2008, 12:35 PM
anyone who claims that there has ever been a media conspiracy against Ron Paul is just looking for excuses...any lack of media attention or negative media attention that he has received is only due to his own whacked-out political views.
Iroc Joe
02-05-2008, 12:36 PM
Notice I said "most of our inspiration." Namely, social issues. I'm not sure how I feel about Goldwater's foreign policy stance. I mean, this was a guy whose opinion of nuclear weapons was "let's lob one into the men's room in the Kremlin."
So, I digress...
Iroc Joe
02-05-2008, 12:38 PM
anyone who claims that there has ever been a media conspiracy against Ron Paul is just looking for excuses...any lack of media attention or negative media attention that he has received is only due to his own whacked-out political views.
Holding the Constitution to its intentions, and following the rule of law that established this country, and differentiated it from all the European nation-states is whacked-out?
Umm, genius, he is.
We dirty libertarian types look back to a Senator named Barry Goldwater for a majority of our inspiration. Goldwater wrote a book, "The Conscience of the Conservative." His nickname was "Mr. Conservative."
This is completely different than the more modern interpretation of liberal/conservative. Goldwater was very socially liberal. To quote him, "You don't have to be straight to serve in the military, you have to be able to shoot straight." That is but one example. Goldwater was very polarizing to the emerging evangelical, religious right, going so far as to tell them not to associate his name in anything they do, they have hurt the Republican party more than the Democrats have.
You dirty libertarians and your unusual word meanings....:lol:
But really, who is he supporting now? I haven't heard anything about it.
Topless T/A
02-05-2008, 12:41 PM
Holding the Constitution to its intentions, and following the rule of law that established this country, and differentiated it from all the European nation-states is whacked-out?
I'm not going to get into it, because it's been debated 1,000 times on here already...that and apparently an extremely-vast majority of Americans recognize his problems as well. He runs away from our country's problems, and is too narrow-minded to ever get elected President.
Holding the Constitution to its intentions, and following the rule of law that established this country, and differentiated it from all the European nation-states is whacked-out?
Well, you know my views on freedoms and stuff and you know I'm no commie, but c'mon...I kinda agreed with this guy for a while until he opened his mouth in the debates and made a complete ass out of himself. He really is pretty kooky. Now, if there was a Ron Paul "Lite" Canidate, maybe they could be something people could agree with...but dissolving the Fed, the IRS, the DoE? This guy is smoking some good granola.
jabtay
02-05-2008, 01:12 PM
Now, if there was a Ron Paul "Lite" Canidate, maybe they could be something people could agree with...but dissolving the Fed, the IRS, the DoE? This guy is smoking some good granola.
I agree, he is out there in his plans
You dirty libertarians and your unusual word meanings....:lol:
But really, who is he supporting now? I haven't heard anything about it.
RP isn't supporting anyone but himself. He hasn't dropped out of the race and is still on the ballots of all the states voting today.
Sumthin Nuu
02-06-2008, 11:09 AM
RP isn't supporting anyone but himself. He hasn't dropped out of the race and is still on the ballots of all the states voting today.
Precisely. Ron Paul, like him or not, at least votes for and stands on principles and his record reflects that. As opposed to the records of the other candidates who have demonstrated seizure-like flip flopping, and who pay lip service to conservatism (fiscal, social, and otherwise) and then, when elected can't even remember the meaning of the word.
It's really not that hard to understand why a principled conservative would elect NOT to support a fake conservative candidate with piss poor decision making and wish washy principles.
I'm not certain what people voting for McCain, Obama, or Hillary think they will be getting, but if all they want is more of the same out of Washington, we'll get what we deserve.
rainmkr
02-07-2008, 10:43 AM
You know what has me interested this time.. there are NO real independents making waves.. no green party "naders", no ross perots, no nothing. the media has solely focused on the 2 main parties, which reminds me, more than ever that staying on the GOP train was the only viable thing for Ron Paul to do.
Elohim
02-07-2008, 11:44 AM
I'm not certain what people voting for McCain, Obama, or Hillary think they will be getting, but if all they want is more of the same out of Washington, we'll get what we deserve.
Its nice to see someone else gets it. Vote for any of the current viable candidates and you'll get get the same thing, so just pick the prettiest one because it really makes no difference.
BTW, see how Ron Paul has performed in the Caucus states... He took 25% of the votes in Montana and did well in several other states.
Sumthin Nuu
02-07-2008, 12:12 PM
Its nice to see someone else gets it. Vote for any of the current viable candidates and you'll get get the same thing, so just pick the prettiest one because it really makes no difference.
BTW, see how Ron Paul has performed in the Caucus states... He took 25% of the votes in Montana and did well in several other states.
Noone ever accused the Amercian voting public of being particularly smart about who they elect, at any level. That said, even a specimen in a petri dish will start to move if enough heat is applied to it, perhaps we'll have the required amount of heat in a few more years.
Regarding RP in the Caucus states, there are largely scattered segments of older rural voters who have flipped ahead a few chapters in the pages of history, and are in wise agreement with his stance and policies on most of the important issues.
Most of the US voting populace isn't ready to begin walking without their shoulders chapping the inside of their thighs yet, this election is a pretty vivid affirmation of that. So we'll see where this goes soon enough I imagine.
Elohim
02-07-2008, 12:26 PM
perhaps we'll have the required amount of heat in a few more years.
If you look at our spending, debt, and foreign policy; I'm not sure we have a few more years.
If you look at our spending, debt, and foreign policy; I'm not sure we have a few more years.
Current Bush spending levels would bankrupt us within a decade. Well within a decade.
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