Thoughts on Obama.....

[mittelschmerz]

Stolen from another message board... I have to agree.


After all these recent threads about him plagerizing and his reps not even being able to answer any question about his accomplishments leads me to this conclusion...

He is nothing more than a great public speaker with "great" (not in my eyes) ideas. The problem is, he has no way of accomplishing any of them, nor does he have a clue how to. He has been built up by the media because the color of his skin and the pretty thigns that come out of his mouth. He is no different than any other joe blow who took a public speaking class in college who spews out his ideas. None. They are one in the same. Mr. Blow can get up in a crowd and say all these great things about things he would love to do, but Mr. Blow doesnt have a CLUE about how to accomplish them. Kinda like obama.

His followers cannot speak of a single thing that he has accomplished....... Why? Because he hasnt accomplished a damn thing.

Senator obama is nothing more than a senator like all of the others who just happens to stand out due to the color of is skin and the words (that arent even his) that he speaks.

How anybody can buy into his propoganda is beyond me.

And for the record, the only reason i will be voting for Mccain in this election is because he isnt hillary or obama.

*steps off soapbox*

[HullBreach]

Im honestly kinda surprised Hillary is taking such a beating from him. I mean yeah, she has the freindlieness of a rabid meth-fiend badger, but she has at least come out with clear-cut policy statements and plans.

The only policy statements I can recall from Obama at this point are that he wants to pull troops out of Iraq, start some kind of green energy fund, and federally ban concealed carry regardless of what the states say.

It's like he's trying to appeal to the center & left simply by pissing off the right.

[mittelschmerz]

Dont forget he wants to give $4000 to every college student every semester.... And where is he going to come up with that money?

He is an idiot.

[Chuck 98 RT/10]

Dont forget he wants to give $4000 to every college student every semester.... And where is he going to come up with that money?


That's easy. He will take it from wealthy and middle class people with no dependents.

[Scott]

Barrack's grandiose public speaking reminds me of something of something else.

GWB, he is a shitty public speaker but you know when he says he is going to do something, he does. Whether you agree with it or not.

Funny thing is Barrack is beating Hillary with all these smoke and mirror speeches, goes to show how weak she really is / was.

[J-Dizzle]

i think Hillary got to Obama pretty good about his Plagiarism issue. He really couldn't defend it. This was one of the 1st debates ive actually really sat through and watched the whole thing and i agreed with Hillary on most subjects and agreed with some things Obama said.

[whitebread]

karl rove had an interesting op-ed about obama in today's wall street journal
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John McCain also took on Mr. Obama, with the Arizona senator declaring he would oppose "eloquent but empty calls for change that promises no more than a holiday from history and a return to the false promises and failed policies of a tired philosophy that trusts in government more than people."
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Perhaps in response to criticisms that have been building in recent days, Mr. Obama pivoted Tuesday from his usual incantations. He dropped the pretense of being a candidate of inspiring but undescribed "post-partisan" change. Until now, Mr. Obama has been making appeals to the center, saying, for example, that we are not red or blue states, but the United States. But in his Houston speech, he used the opportunity of 45 (long) minutes on national TV to advocate a distinctly non-centrist, even proudly left-wing, agenda. By doing so, he opened himself to new and damaging contrasts and lines of criticism.

Mr. McCain can now question Mr. Obama's promise to change Washington by working across party lines. Mr. Obama hasn't worked across party lines since coming to town. Was he a member of the "Gang of 14" that tried to find common ground between the parties on judicial nominations? Was Mr. Obama part of the bipartisan leadership that tackled other thorny issues like energy, immigration or terrorist surveillance legislation? No. Mr. Obama has been one of the most dependably partisan votes in the Senate.
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Mr. McCain gets a chance to question Mr. Obama's declaration he won't be beholden to lobbyists and special interests....The truth is that Mr. Obama is unwilling to challenge special interests if they represent the financial and political muscle of the Democratic left. He says yes to the lobbyists of the AFL-CIO when they demand card-check legislation to take away the right of workers to have a secret ballot in unionization efforts, or when they oppose trade deals. He won't break with trial lawyers, even when they demand the ability to sue telecom companies that make it possible for intelligence agencies to intercept communications between terrorists abroad. And he is now going out of his way to proclaim fidelity to the educational unions. This is a disappointment since he'd earlier indicated an openness to education reform. Mr. Obama backs their agenda down the line, even calling for an end to testing, which is the only way parents can know with confidence whether their children are learning and their schools working.

These stands represent not just policy vulnerabilities, but also a real danger to Mr. Obama's credibility and authenticity. He cannot proclaim his goal is the end of influence for lobbies if the only influences he seeks to end are lobbies of the center and the right.

Unlike Bill Clinton in 1992, Mr. Obama is completely unwilling to confront the left wing of the Democratic Party, no matter how outrageous its demands, no matter how out of touch it might be with the American people. And Tuesday night, in a key moment in this race, he dropped the pretense that his was a centrist agenda. His agenda is the agenda of the Democratic left.
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For Mr. Obama, words are merely a means to hide a left-leaning agenda behind the cloak of centrist rhetoric. That garment has now been torn. As voters see what his agenda is, his opponents can now far more effectively question his authenticity, credibility, record and fitness to be leader of the free world.

The road to the presidency just got steeper for Barack Obama, and all because he pivoted on Tuesday night.
http://online.wsj.com/public/article_print/SB120355939956381797.html

[Josh]

"eloquent but empty calls for change that promises no more than a holiday from history and a return to the false promises and failed policies of a tired philosophy that trusts in government more than people."

might be the truest words spoken in the past 8 years...

[blurboEK]

good read.. I still don't understand how anyone can support him or Billary.. :dunno:

[Joe]

i think Hillary got to Obama pretty good about his Plagiarism issue. He really couldn't defend it. This was one of the 1st debates ive actually really sat through and watched the whole thing and i agreed with Hillary on most subjects and agreed with some things Obama said.


How about when Hillary plagiarizes another person?

http://slate.com/blogs/blogs/trailhead/archive/2008/02/21/the-last-words.aspx

http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DzAYItnI-lPo

[Scott]

Wow, suddenly McCain is looking a lot better. :lol: Even after the piss poor hit job the liberal rag NYTimes tried.

[HullBreach]

Wow, suddenly McCain is looking a lot better. :lol: Even after the piss poor hit job the liberal rag NYTimes tried.

I have this sinking suspicion that they have some really damning evidence about that.

I think the initial weak story was just to lure him out into a denial, so they can now pop up and scream liar!

None of this is surprising from the NYT. They grey lady's been a filthy whore for some time now.

[Scott]

I have this sinking suspicion that they have some really damning evidence about that.

I think the initial weak story was just to lure him out into a denial, so they can now pop up and scream liar!

None of this is surprising from the NYT. They grey lady's been a filthy whore for some time now.



No I think they do not have shit, it is another piss poor attempt in a long line of piss poor attempts by that POS rag. I wish someone would do a equal hit piece on the screaming libs that own that company because they are far from choir boys. I am just glad to see they are continuing to loose business and laying off people. It is a perfect example of how that mindset breeds negativity and thankfully people are getting sick of it or finally realizing it.

[J-Dizzle]

How about when Hillary plagiarizes another person?

http://slate.com/blogs/blogs/trailhead/archive/2008/02/21/the-last-words.aspx

http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DzAYItnI-lPo

hey not all plagiarism is bad its how you use it and cite it and it obamas case he went word for word and at the time didnt mention that he and his boy had the same agenda.

[moldyhands]

this is what is wrong with america. buzz words is all that matters for a presidential campaign. oh he's a good speaker but empty words. oh she's just a lying, do anything to win bitch. if you want to see the candidates stances and what they actually intend for the issues, just google it. i found this site which is pretty helpful:

http://www.selectsmart.com/president/2008/comparethem.html

couple interesting facts about the "liberal" obama:

Senator Obama voted against the most recent effort to raise the national debt limit.

Prescription drugs: "To help lower the cost of prescription drugs, Senator Obama has supported efforts to allow American seniors to purchase prescription drugs in Canada and bring them back to the U.S. He also has supported giving Medicare the ability to negotiate lower drug prices."