McCain tied to Iran-Contra group

[moldyhands]

so he was on the Board of this organization and apparently didn't know what they were doing? so either he was privy to and supportive of iran-contra activities or he was willing to be on the Board of an organization and not fulfill his fiduciary duty.

smart money is that he knew exactly what they were doing.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27062761/

[Zealot]

And Obama has ties to a domestic terrorist. In the end McCain still comes out smelling better

[TNathe]

they both smell like shit, everyone enjoy the next for years of THE SAME no matter WHO gets elected.

[PPGMD]

Oh lets leave out the important parts:
"McCain was a new guy on the block learning the ropes," Singlaub told The Associated Press in an interview. "I think I met him in the Washington area when he was just a new congressman. We had McCain on the board to make him feel like he wasn't left out. It looks good to have names on a letterhead who are well-known and appreciated.

"I don't recall talking to McCain at all on the work of the group," Singlaub said.

"I don't ever remember hearing about his resigning, but I really wasn't worried about that part of our activities, a housekeeping thing," said Singlaub. "If he didn't want to be on the board that's OK. It wasn't as if he had been active participant and we were going to miss his help. He had no active interest. He certainly supported us."

[moldyhands]

Oh lets leave out the important parts:
who left anything out? i said he was on the board which meant he knew about these things (likely) or he wasn't doing his job as a board member.

if an organization's purpose is to aid these contra campaigns through the illegal sale of weapons to iran, and your board member (mccain) "supported" them, then he knew what was going on.

next you're actually going to say that reagan had no part in iran-contra:roll:

[oh1coupe]

ibmccain says "i dont recall"

[PPGMD]

who left anything out? i said he was on the board which meant he knew about these things (likely) or he wasn't doing his job as a board member.

if an organization's purpose is to aid these contra campaigns through the illegal sale of weapons to iran, and your board member (mccain) "supported" them, then he knew what was going on.

A lot of small organizations ask Senators, Representatives, and other famous people (like the early astronauts) to be on their boards. None of them expect them to actually do anything, they are just there so the company can say "Hey look we have a Senator (,Representative, or other famous person) on our board."

[blacksheep-1]

OK, he's tied to a group that financed our allies in south america by selling arms through israel and actually MADE money doing it.
In the process they fingered a few terrorists along the way, namely osama bin laden.
..and this is bad?
At least he wasn't tied to a domestic terrorist who had no problem blowing up businesses in America and killing US citizens.

[Derek]

so he was on the Board of this organization and apparently didn't know what they were doing? so either he was privy to and supportive of iran-contra activities or he was willing to be on the Board of an organization and not fulfill his fiduciary duty.

smart money is that he knew exactly what they were doing.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27062761/

moldy, you have to realize, it is only appropriate to befriend republican terrorist and criminals like Oliver North and G. Gordon Liddy.

[moldyhands]

moldy, you have to realize, it is only appropriate to befriend republican terrorist and criminals like Oliver North and G. Gordon Liddy.
ha ha ha - reps for you.

i love how blacksheep-1 actually thinks paying for wars to overthrow popularly elected (read democratic) gov'ts is OK if they're not US friendly.

PPGMD - you're absolutely right about Board members that just do it for presence. however, if you've ever been involved in a Board of Directors, you'd know that they should take that position very seriously. now it's been 20 years, so McCain should come out and either admit he was privy to the dealings with the contras or apologize for not being a good board member. i would hate to think the president would sit on a Board of Directors and not do his job.

[PPGMD]

moldy, you have to realize, it is only appropriate to befriend republican terrorist and criminals like Oliver North and G. Gordon Liddy.

Oliver North was doing work for the federal government, the only crimes he was convicted of (and were later vacated by an appeals court) was not helping Congress with their inquiry.

G. Gorden Liddy served his time, and is no where near the level of Ayers, he simply took the elections and politics too far.

[PPGMD]

you're absolutely right about Board members that just do it for presence. however, if you've ever been involved in a Board of Directors, you'd know that they should take that position very seriously. now it's been 20 years, so McCain should come out and either admit he was privy to the dealings with the contras or apologize for not being a good board member. i would hate to think the president would sit on a Board of Directors and not do his job.

That is not always true like I noted, sometimes smaller organizations just want the name on the Board and could care less if they attend meetings or not because the name lends credibility to the organization. As

The two quotes I pulled out make it clear that this organization had McCain on the board for that reason.

[Derek]

Oliver North was doing work for the federal government, the only crimes he was convicted of (and were later vacated by an appeals court) was not helping Congress with their inquiry.

G. Gorden Liddy served his time, and is no where near the level of Ayers, he simply took the elections and politics too far.

See, appropriate for republican terrorist, they are just taking their politics to far.

Liddy has admitted to planning the firebombing of domestic targets, the murder of journalist, kidnapping and murder of protestors and who knows what else. Liddy and his associates also planned on murder should something go wrong with the Elsberg break in. How is this thug any better than Ayers? Just because he was a republican?

[XYNaPSE]

The differences between a liberal terrorist and a conservative terrorist. American politics. My terrorist is better than yours. :lol:

[PPGMD]

See, appropriate for republican terrorist, they are just taking their politics to far.

Liddy has admitted to planning the firebombing of domestic targets, the murder of journalist, kidnapping and murder of protestors and who knows what else. Liddy and his associates also planned on murder should something go wrong with the Elsberg break in. How is this thug any better than Ayers? Just because he was a republican?

Coming up with far fetched plans is quite different then implementing them.

The Pentagon has plans to wage nuclear war with just about every country on earth, that doesn't mean that they are guilty of mass murder.

Hell in a recent meeting we were talking about ways to fund a project, I jokingly said "Lets kidnap some cats, and hold them for ransom." Does that mean I am guilty?

[Derek]

Coming up with far fetched plans is quite different then implementing them.

The Pentagon has plans to wage nuclear war with just about every country on earth, that doesn't mean that they are guilty of mass murder.

Hell in a recent meeting we were talking about ways to fund a project, I jokingly said "Lets kidnap some cats, and hold them for ransom." Does that mean I am guilty?

It is kind of sad that you are defending the thoughts and actions of Liddy, the guy was far more serious with his plans of murder than your cat remark (I'm sure you can see that), also it is a stretch to equate what Liddy did to the preparations our military makes for nuclear war.

I guess the difference between you and I is that I think both extremes of these parties are scary. Both Ayers and Liddy, are scary in their thought process, the rationalization of violence and justifying loss of human life to meet a political goal. To me, there is no difference between the two.

[PPGMD]

If Liddy was genuinely serious he would have been convicted of Conspiracy to commit murder, not just the charges surrounding the break ins.

Ayers OTOH was part of an organization that actually bombed government buildings.

[blacksheep-1]

The difference between an a conservative terrorist and a liberal terrorist, the conservative terrorist wants to destroy america's enemies, the liberal terrorist wants to destroy america.

[YuppyKiller]

so he was on the Board of this organization and apparently didn't know what they were doing? so either he was privy to and supportive of iran-contra activities or he was willing to be on the Board of an organization and not fulfill his fiduciary duty.

smart money is that he knew exactly what they were doing.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27062761/


Sorry to do this to you, but you had to put a link from "MSNBC" up there.. so here's the defense on that subject.

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_100708/content/01125113.guest.html