Well after listening to the assumptions that come from TF all these years I think it's safe to say that you guys are way off base. From my first post here asking why I should vote for G. W. Bush in 2000 to this one here, it's constant worse case scenario for the Democrat and can't do any better than a Republican. Always taking the right point of view in any situation. Purposely instigating a slanderous debate with anyone who is on the center or opposite side of the spectrum.
While the nation is in trouble in every aspect from a troubled economy to an exhausted military while our enemies are growing because of our policies; we still can't meet in the middle and you all want to continue the same path that got us in these situations. It's like doing the same mistake over and over again never changing. Perhaps the neo-cons have Alzheimers disease. Thankfully, most of the country sees there are serious problems and that things need to change on both sides of the fence.
As for Obama, I didn't vote for him and I along with 18 million other voters wish Hillary would have taken it to the convention because she was starting to kick his ass in the end. The media did a dirty deed as well making things very bitter by endorsing Obama from the start. How and why that happened I'm not sure. Sure she made a couple screw ups but so what, everyone does. Obama made some screw ups in his life too. The Republicans made tons of screw ups over the years. WHy do you think they are having such a hard time right now?
In short, we should all try to come together instead of being assholes to eachother. We have some great candidates running for president. The next four years should be very interesting.