Bought new SATA drive. Wont Recognize

**Grangalan** · 12-31-2009, 05:00 PM

Bought a Cavia Black 1 TB drive from Newegg and planned on cloing my old drive onto the new one. Problem is i cant get windows or Bios to detect the new drive. Tried swapping cables and ports and still nothing.

The drive spins up fine but no detection. I'm leaning towards a DOA item.

**MianoSM** · 12-31-2009, 05:16 PM

If the BIOS isn't detecting it that is the first problem, don't even worry about Windows.

I'd check on a different machine and see if it isn't either the cable/mobo, or the drive itself.

**Brian** · 12-31-2009, 05:20 PM

Are you sure the port your plugging it into is enabled in the BIOS?

**Grangalan** · 12-31-2009, 06:07 PM

drives fine, my buddies mobo was just a douche.

DocBallistic · 12-31-2009, 06:33 PM

may have been too big for the MoBo... some boards cant recognize that size of a drive.

IamSuprAwsum · 01-01-2010, 09:10 AM

How old is the motherboard you are using? Is it aftermarket or basic Dell, Gateway, eMachines, etc?

**P057** · 01-02-2010, 09:13 AM

hard drives really hate you.

**Brian** · 01-02-2010, 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DocBallistic

may have been too big for the MoBo... some boards cant recognize that size of a drive.

I thought that pretty much stopped with the release of SATA?

**m0nk3y** · 01-02-2010, 09:41 AM

i hate it when bitches wont recognize.

IamSuprAwsum · 01-02-2010, 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian

I thought that pretty much stopped with the release of SATA?

Also what I thought but Im not positive.

Every sata board I have used has had an option do disable IDE or SATA channels entirely so make sure you have the channel its plugged into enabled. If its not then enable it, reboot, then go back into BIOS and check.

DocBallistic · 01-02-2010, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian

I thought that pretty much stopped with the release of SATA?

up until 2000 they used 28bit addressing for LBA which allows for a maximum size to 138 Billion bytes, about 128GB.

2000+ they went to 48bit LBA which allows for hard drives in the petabyte realm. ALL SATA drive controllers (HDD controllers) support 48bit, but your MoBo and SATA controller has to support it as well. If he had a 1999 2000 built computer his mobo may have been outdated for the size of drive. Windows XP didnt support that size of a drive or LBA until SP1 which was in mid 2002. So it could be a number of issues. Especially if its a shelf bought older PC. If he had a PCI SATA controller im sure he would have no issue, but if it was the onboard and it was an old machine... there could be the issue.

nipster · 01-02-2010, 06:33 PM

I saw an article last week about some hard drive manufacturers changing to 4k cluster sizes and some older computers not being able to recognize them, maybe thats it...

**SorsSalutis** · 01-02-2010, 07:17 PM

Had this same problem last week. What version of windows?

This may seem stupid but it fucked me up...

Start - Control Panel - Administrative Tools - Computer Management

Once inside go to "Storage" - "Disk Management"

It will take a few seconds to recognize all your drives but the drive in question (if attached properly" should show up. You can partition and set up the hard drive from here.

**m0nk3y** · 01-02-2010, 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SorsSalutis

Had this same problem last week. What version of windows?

This may seem stupid but it fucked me up...

Start - Control Panel - Administrative Tools - Computer Management

Once inside go to "Storage" - "Disk Management"

It will take a few seconds to recognize all your drives but the drive in question (if attached properly" should show up. You can partition and set up the hard drive from here.

protip: rightclick on my computer, select manage - then storage, disk management

nipster · 01-02-2010, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by m0nk3y

protip: rightclick on my computer, select manage - then storage, disk management

Fuck that...

start / run / diskmgmt.msc

or open a command prompt and run diskpart

**Brian** · 01-03-2010, 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DocBallistic

up until 2000 they used 28bit addressing for LBA which allows for a maximum size to 138 Billion bytes, about 128GB.

2000+ they went to 48bit LBA which allows for hard drives in the petabyte realm. ALL SATA drive controllers (HDD controllers) support 48bit, but your MoBo and SATA controller has to support it as well. If he had a 1999 2000 built computer his mobo may have been outdated for the size of drive. Windows XP didnt support that size of a drive or LBA until SP1 which was in mid 2002. So it could be a number of issues. Especially if its a shelf bought older PC. If he had a PCI SATA controller im sure he would have no issue, but if it was the onboard and it was an old machine... there could be the issue.

SATA was released around 2003...

**m0nk3y** · 01-03-2010, 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nipster

Fuck that...

start / run / diskmgmt.msc

or open a command prompt and run diskpart

didn't know windowsfags liked to type

figured all yall do is click!

DocBallistic · 01-03-2010, 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian

SATA was released around 2003...

yea i know, but if he has a older MoBo it wont work. He could have a board using 28Bit addressing and the manfacturer tossed on SATA connectors. They will work but he wont be able to see large HDDs. If his BIOS has a legacy mode its prolly disabled and requires drivers to see the drive itself. Im Assuming his MoBo is just an older MoBo and its not a newer generation SATA controller. newer-ish MoBos show the SATA drive as a Sudo Legacy PATA drive for installation of OS's, Lots of Server boards are like this.

IamSuprAwsum · 01-04-2010, 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DocBallistic

newer-ish MoBos show the SATA drive as a Sudo Legacy PATA drive for installation of OS's, Lots of Server boards are like this.

Pseudo btw, but yes. I had a Biostar that did this as well. It recognized SATA drives as IDE and it was a bitch to configure but this has been several years ago before I got into computers.

DocBallistic · 01-04-2010, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by IamSuprAwsum

Pseudo btw, but yes. I had a Biostar that did this as well. It recognized SATA drives as IDE and it was a bitch to configure but this has been several years ago before I got into computers.

we can tell whos an admin and whos not.. Sudo = Switch user do. Im used to typying Sudo commands all day

but i did mean pseudo!

12-31-2009, 05:00 PM	#1 (permalink)
Grangalan Twin Turbolicious	Bought new SATA drive. Wont Recognize Bought a Cavia Black 1 TB drive from Newegg and planned on cloing my old drive onto the new one. Problem is i cant get windows or Bios to detect the new drive. Tried swapping cables and ports and still nothing. The drive spins up fine but no detection. I'm leaning towards a DOA item.

01-02-2010, 07:17 PM	#13 (permalink)
SorsSalutis I B O A B	Had this same problem last week. What version of windows? This may seem stupid but it fucked me up... Start - Control Panel - Administrative Tools - Computer Management Once inside go to "Storage" - "Disk Management" It will take a few seconds to recognize all your drives but the drive in question (if attached properly" should show up. You can partition and set up the hard drive from here. Last edited by SorsSalutis : 01-02-2010 at 07:20 PM.

12-31-2009, 05:16 PM	#2 (permalink)
MianoSM Custom User Title	If the BIOS isn't detecting it that is the first problem, don't even worry about Windows. I'd check on a different machine and see if it isn't either the cable/mobo, or the drive itself.

12-31-2009, 05:20 PM	#3 (permalink)
Brian Beyond Retarded.	Are you sure the port your plugging it into is enabled in the BIOS?

12-31-2009, 06:07 PM	#4 (permalink)
Grangalan Twin Turbolicious	drives fine, my buddies mobo was just a douche.

12-31-2009, 06:33 PM	#5 (permalink)
DocBallistic Registered User	may have been too big for the MoBo... some boards cant recognize that size of a drive.

01-01-2010, 09:10 AM	#6 (permalink)
IamSuprAwsum Blasphemer	How old is the motherboard you are using? Is it aftermarket or basic Dell, Gateway, eMachines, etc?

01-02-2010, 09:13 AM	#7 (permalink)
P057 isuck	hard drives really hate you.

01-02-2010, 09:41 AM	#9 (permalink)
m0nk3y pwns.	i hate it when bitches wont recognize.

01-02-2010, 06:33 PM	#12 (permalink)
nipster The People's Hammer	I saw an article last week about some hard drive manufacturers changing to 4k cluster sizes and some older computers not being able to recognize them, maybe thats it...