A Guide to DVD Burning....

**SorsSalutis** · 07-14-2005, 06:22 PM

So instead of this topic popping up on TR daily, I've decided to create a small guide to backing up a dvd.

First off, I should say TR is not responsible nor is condoning backing up any DVD's for which you do not own and/or do not plan on using for personal use.

Your going to need 2 to 3 programs...

1. DVD Shrink - Used to compress the 9 gig movie down to 4 gigs to fit on a regular DVD-+R. It does decrease the quality of the picture, but not enough that I can tell. I have done many DVD's and I usually can't differentiate between the backup and the original. Download DVD Shrink Here

2. DVD Decryptor (optional) - Used for those hard to rip DVD's. This actually rips the files off the DVD (without compression) and onto your hard drive in VOB, IFO and BUP files. If you get an error code in DVD Shrink, you'll use this file first, but I'll get to that later. Download DVD Decypter Here

3. Nero - You will need this software to burn the ISO file created from DVD Shrink, off your hard drive and onto the DVD. You can use other burning software but I'm going to recommend Nero. You can get a trial version of Nero here

Once you have downloaded the software and you have a DVD, you are ready to go, but since this is sort of a newb instruction guide I should say you need at least 5 gigs of free space to create a successful backup with DVD Shrink and Nero. If you use DVD Decrypter with that process you will need about 10. But dont worry it will get erased after you done.

1. Put DVD into drive

2. Run DVD Shrink 3.2

3. Click on the "Open Disc" button, and select your drive and DVD.

4. DVD shrink will scan your DVD. It takes about 2 minutes depending on your computer and whick movie is sitting in the drive. Ive seen it done in 50 seconds at the most.

5. After its done it will bring up a menu with compression settings and such. Since you dont know what your doing leave them alone. If you want you can
take off some of the extra stuff like french dolby tracks, by unclicking the box next to the appropriate track. The amount saved off deleteing that track will be added to your compression ratios and give you better quality in your picture.

6. Click the "Backup!" button in between "Fulldisc" and "Analysis". This will bring up a menu with many different tabs. The first one (Target Device) is the important one. This gives you the option of what output file and where. The first drop down box should be selected on ISO Image File. The second allows you to choose where you want your file. Remember you need at least 5 gigs. Go to Browse and choose a location and remember it. Dont pay attention to the other tabs in the menu for now. Click OK.

7. It should take about 45 minutes to create the ISO file on your hard drive, and if you want your can enable video preview so you can watch whats happening. Once its done, open Nero.

8. Insert a blank DVD into your DVD tray. Select Burn ISO or Image to disc, find your ISO file (if for some reason its not in the folder, you have to use the drop down box to select file types to look for, select "all" on the bottom and you should see it). Adjust your settings ( I always burn a 2X because I have a problem with skipping when using anything larger) on you DVD burner and hit whatever button it is you hit to start the burning.

9. Once its finished you have a backup, but remember to erase the ISO file off your hard drive AFTER you have checked to make sure the DVD runs fine.

Error Codes and DVD Decrypter

If for some reason DVD Shrink doesnt like your DVD it wont scan it, and youll get an error code during step 4. This is where DVD Decryptor comes into play.

1. Open DVD Decrypter

2. It will automatically select the tray that has the DVD. A series of files will show on the right (VOB, IFO, BUP). Make sure they are all selected.

3. Choose a destination folder the same way you did in Step 6, but remember now youll need more space. This program will take the files off the DVD uncompressed so expect about 9 gigs for all the files, but have ten ready just in case. Yes, these will get erased too, but you need to do it manually after your finished.

4. Click on the picture of the DVD with the arrow pointing to the Hard Drive to start the process. Again this should take abot 45 minutes to an hour and a half depending on movie, cpu, and DVD drive speeds.

5. Once its finished, open DVD shrink again. This time click the "open files" button and select the files that DVD decrypter made. This should bypass the error code and run the program off the hard drive instead of the DVD.

6. Follow the steps for DVDShrink starting at 6.

Hopefully this helps and clears up some of the confusion you guys are having trying to backup your DVD's.

ENJOY!

**JonLGT** · 07-14-2005, 06:24 PM

Uh... Thanks?

**topper** · 07-14-2005, 06:54 PM

for me???

**satanshatch** · 07-14-2005, 07:15 PM

No probably for me..

and this is total bullshit.. 4. DVD shrink will scan your DVD. It takes about 2 minutes depending on your computer and whick movie is sitting in the drive. Ive seen it done in 50 seconds at the most.

I just waited close to an HR for DVD shrink to scan a movie. God this is fucking annoying ! And I have a decently fast computer.

**satanshatch** · 07-14-2005, 07:31 PM

Well the dvd burned fine ! No problems thus far.. all is well..

OniS14 · 07-14-2005, 08:10 PM

WOOHOO!
now i can go buy a DVD burner!

**Ripped** · 07-14-2005, 08:11 PM

thats the same programs i utilize... good advice..

**Ripped** · 07-14-2005, 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by satanshatch

No probably for me..

and this is total bullshit.. 4. DVD shrink will scan your DVD. It takes about 2 minutes depending on your computer and whick movie is sitting in the drive. Ive seen it done in 50 seconds at the most.

I just waited close to an HR for DVD shrink to scan a movie. God this is fucking annoying ! And I have a decently fast computer.

scanning the dvd during the first step is just analizing it.. "making sure its able to be copied"

then when you back it up it actually has to convert it into individual files. .vob and such. this step simply copies the individual files into a folder you choose. so its basically converting and copying 4.5 gigs worth of data during this time.

typically if i just need to use dvd shrink, it can take upwards of 45 minutes to 1 hour to completely RIP a dvd to my hard drive.. once its there, it only takes 10/15 minutes to burn it to a dvd.. so i would consider what your times on the normal range. however if you have to use DVD decrypter. it can take 1 1/2 to 2 hours to complete the process sometimes..

Blueboost · 07-14-2005, 08:18 PM

uuuhh...... http://www.doom9.org/ baby.

thats everything you need to know and more in one link.

**SorsSalutis** · 07-14-2005, 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by satanshatch

No probably for me..

and this is total bullshit.. 4. DVD shrink will scan your DVD. It takes about 2 minutes depending on your computer and whick movie is sitting in the drive. Ive seen it done in 50 seconds at the most.

I just waited close to an HR for DVD shrink to scan a movie. God this is fucking annoying ! And I have a decently fast computer.

no not bullshit...this is scanning the dvd NOT ripping it...if it takes your computer an hour to scan the disc, get rid of it. It takes an hour to RIP it, not scan it.

Again, im just trying to help you guys. I wasn't saying anyone was stupid, I just felt since I see alot of "WTF am I doing wrong" type of threads I could write a guide to show you how quick and easy it can be.

**ParamedicMXr** · 07-22-2005, 11:20 PM

Thanks alot homes!

Im burning Meet the Fockers now, i downloaded it and it is 700mb. I only have 4.7gb discs, so i used Long Play, and its still 3.99gb (from 700mb in itself).

Do your steps work with the 4.7gb DVD+rs or 8.whatevers?

**satanshatch** · 07-22-2005, 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blueboost

uuuhh...... http://www.doom9.org/ baby.

thats everything you need to know and more in one link.

hahaha.. I found that a week or two ago. Where I learned about ripping my DVDs. Printed everthing off at work. And followed it all step by step. Great web site. !

**satanshatch** · 07-22-2005, 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SorsSalutis

no not bullshit...this is scanning the dvd NOT ripping it...if it takes your computer an hour to scan the disc, get rid of it. It takes an hour to RIP it, not scan it.

Again, im just trying to help you guys. I wasn't saying anyone was stupid, I just felt since I see alot of "WTF am I doing wrong" type of threads I could write a guide to show you how quick and easy it can be.

No No, your thread was helpful. I was incorrect in what I said. It takes about 45 min for the movie to be DL-ed to my HD. Ripping takes a few min. But I've heard thats standard for DVD shrink to take that long on a movie. No biggie. Alls well in DVD land

**ParamedicMXr** · 07-23-2005, 12:13 AM

Also, does that work with PS2 games as well?

**accord95** · 07-23-2005, 12:27 AM

question for the stupid people (me) , do you need a dvd burner to do this? i have two cd roms, one for cd-r and one for playing dvd's, but no dvd burner. can i do this with one of my existing roms, or do i need to buy a dvd burner?

**ParamedicMXr** · 07-23-2005, 12:54 AM

What the fuck. Somebody help.

On the final step, it says _NEC DVD+-RW ND-6500A ILLEGAL DISC. What the hell? They are memorex 4.7gb DVD-Rs. Why wont it let me?

**SorsSalutis** · 07-23-2005, 12:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by accord95

question for the stupid people (me) , do you need a dvd burner to do this? i have two cd roms, one for cd-r and one for playing dvd's, but no dvd burner. can i do this with one of my existing roms, or do i need to buy a dvd burner?

You need a DVD burner. The programs I have chosen only shrink the DVD enough to fit on a standard DVD-R. Im sure there are other programs that will do what your asking, but I am not familiar. Look into "VCD", and programs like "veritas software" they have a VCD burning rom that will put .avi files onto a CD that will play on your DVD player. You'll need a program that first rips your DVD into an .avi file thats less that 700 MB. Check download.com.

Quote:

Originally Posted by satanshatch

No No, your thread was helpful. I was incorrect in what I said. It takes about 45 min for the movie to be DL-ed to my HD. Ripping takes a few min. But I've heard thats standard for DVD shrink to take that long on a movie. No biggie. Alls well in DVD land

No Problem. Miscommunication. Hope I helped some.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drtrider125

What the fuck. Somebody help.

On the final step, it says _NEC DVD+-RW ND-6500A ILLEGAL DISC. What the hell? They are memorex 4.7gb DVD-Rs. Why wont it let me?

Sounds like a problem with your write speeds. If you buy a dvd-,+r that is too quick for the write speeds on you DVD burner it can cause a problem. For example, my DVD burner is only a 4x, but I bought 8x DVD's and I got that problem.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drtrider125

Also, does that work with PS2 games as well?

I wish I knew....I use smartFTP in conjunction with my XBOX and make copies that way for my xbox.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drtrider125

Thanks alot homes!
Do your steps work with the 4.7gb DVD+rs or 8.whatevers?

Works with any DVD you can find.

**ParamedicMXr** · 07-23-2005, 01:07 AM

Well, according to Dell i have an 8x DVD burner, and i got 8X DVD-Rs. When i go to burn the CD however, i can select 1x, 2x, or 2.4x. Fock me. Best Buy wont take it back.

**SorsSalutis** · 07-23-2005, 01:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drtrider125

Well, according to Dell i have an 8x DVD burner, and i got 8X DVD-Rs. When i go to burn the CD however, i can select 1x, 2x, or 2.4x. Fock me. Best Buy wont take it back.

Its definitley a compatability issue. Check with your DVD burner manufacturer or contact Dell. I've also bought CompUSA DVD's and recieved that error...maybe its a bad batch. If you have a 8x burner and 8x DVD's the drop down box should let you select 8x.

And by the way, burning a DVD on 8x in my opinion and experience, only leads to problems (skipping, and errors). You should always burn your first few copies on 2x and slowly rise from there. Experiment with 8x only after you have successfully made backups.

**marksaccord95** · 07-23-2005, 01:17 AM

how about burning a already downloaded movie so it will pop up and play in PS2/DVD players.

07-14-2005, 06:22 PM	#1 (permalink)
SorsSalutis I B O A B	A Guide to DVD Burning.... So instead of this topic popping up on TR daily, I've decided to create a small guide to backing up a dvd. First off, I should say TR is not responsible nor is condoning backing up any DVD's for which you do not own and/or do not plan on using for personal use. Your going to need 2 to 3 programs... 1. DVD Shrink - Used to compress the 9 gig movie down to 4 gigs to fit on a regular DVD-+R. It does decrease the quality of the picture, but not enough that I can tell. I have done many DVD's and I usually can't differentiate between the backup and the original. Download DVD Shrink Here 2. DVD Decryptor (optional) - Used for those hard to rip DVD's. This actually rips the files off the DVD (without compression) and onto your hard drive in VOB, IFO and BUP files. If you get an error code in DVD Shrink, you'll use this file first, but I'll get to that later. Download DVD Decypter Here 3. Nero - You will need this software to burn the ISO file created from DVD Shrink, off your hard drive and onto the DVD. You can use other burning software but I'm going to recommend Nero. You can get a trial version of Nero here Once you have downloaded the software and you have a DVD, you are ready to go, but since this is sort of a newb instruction guide I should say you need at least 5 gigs of free space to create a successful backup with DVD Shrink and Nero. If you use DVD Decrypter with that process you will need about 10. But dont worry it will get erased after you done. 1. Put DVD into drive 2. Run DVD Shrink 3.2 3. Click on the "Open Disc" button, and select your drive and DVD. 4. DVD shrink will scan your DVD. It takes about 2 minutes depending on your computer and whick movie is sitting in the drive. Ive seen it done in 50 seconds at the most. 5. After its done it will bring up a menu with compression settings and such. Since you dont know what your doing leave them alone. If you want you can take off some of the extra stuff like french dolby tracks, by unclicking the box next to the appropriate track. The amount saved off deleteing that track will be added to your compression ratios and give you better quality in your picture. 6. Click the "Backup!" button in between "Fulldisc" and "Analysis". This will bring up a menu with many different tabs. The first one (Target Device) is the important one. This gives you the option of what output file and where. The first drop down box should be selected on ISO Image File. The second allows you to choose where you want your file. Remember you need at least 5 gigs. Go to Browse and choose a location and remember it. Dont pay attention to the other tabs in the menu for now. Click OK. 7. It should take about 45 minutes to create the ISO file on your hard drive, and if you want your can enable video preview so you can watch whats happening. Once its done, open Nero. 8. Insert a blank DVD into your DVD tray. Select Burn ISO or Image to disc, find your ISO file (if for some reason its not in the folder, you have to use the drop down box to select file types to look for, select "all" on the bottom and you should see it). Adjust your settings ( I always burn a 2X because I have a problem with skipping when using anything larger) on you DVD burner and hit whatever button it is you hit to start the burning. 9. Once its finished you have a backup, but remember to erase the ISO file off your hard drive AFTER you have checked to make sure the DVD runs fine. Error Codes and DVD Decrypter If for some reason DVD Shrink doesnt like your DVD it wont scan it, and youll get an error code during step 4. This is where DVD Decryptor comes into play. 1. Open DVD Decrypter 2. It will automatically select the tray that has the DVD. A series of files will show on the right (VOB, IFO, BUP). Make sure they are all selected. 3. Choose a destination folder the same way you did in Step 6, but remember now youll need more space. This program will take the files off the DVD uncompressed so expect about 9 gigs for all the files, but have ten ready just in case. Yes, these will get erased too, but you need to do it manually after your finished. 4. Click on the picture of the DVD with the arrow pointing to the Hard Drive to start the process. Again this should take abot 45 minutes to an hour and a half depending on movie, cpu, and DVD drive speeds. 5. Once its finished, open DVD shrink again. This time click the "open files" button and select the files that DVD decrypter made. This should bypass the error code and run the program off the hard drive instead of the DVD. 6. Follow the steps for DVDShrink starting at 6. Hopefully this helps and clears up some of the confusion you guys are having trying to backup your DVD's. ENJOY!

07-14-2005, 06:24 PM	#2 (permalink)
JonLGT Just for decoration	Uh... Thanks?

07-14-2005, 06:54 PM	#3 (permalink)
topper hoes down pimps up	for me???

07-14-2005, 07:15 PM	#4 (permalink)
satanshatch Shoe Whore	No probably for me.. and this is total bullshit.. 4. DVD shrink will scan your DVD. It takes about 2 minutes depending on your computer and whick movie is sitting in the drive. Ive seen it done in 50 seconds at the most. I just waited close to an HR for DVD shrink to scan a movie. God this is fucking annoying ! And I have a decently fast computer.

07-14-2005, 07:31 PM	#5 (permalink)
satanshatch Shoe Whore	Well the dvd burned fine ! No problems thus far.. all is well..

07-14-2005, 08:10 PM	#6 (permalink)
OniS14 do it BIG!!	WOOHOO! now i can go buy a DVD burner!

07-14-2005, 08:11 PM	#7 (permalink)
Ripped ΜOΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ	thats the same programs i utilize... good advice..

07-14-2005, 08:18 PM	#9 (permalink)
Blueboost towards antisocial	uuuhh...... http://www.doom9.org/ baby. thats everything you need to know and more in one link.

07-22-2005, 11:20 PM	#11 (permalink)
ParamedicMXr fucking virgins...	Thanks alot homes! Im burning Meet the Fockers now, i downloaded it and it is 700mb. I only have 4.7gb discs, so i used Long Play, and its still 3.99gb (from 700mb in itself). Do your steps work with the 4.7gb DVD+rs or 8.whatevers?

07-23-2005, 12:13 AM	#14 (permalink)
ParamedicMXr fucking virgins...	Also, does that work with PS2 games as well?

07-23-2005, 12:27 AM	#15 (permalink)
accord95 USMC	question for the stupid people (me) , do you need a dvd burner to do this? i have two cd roms, one for cd-r and one for playing dvd's, but no dvd burner. can i do this with one of my existing roms, or do i need to buy a dvd burner?

07-23-2005, 12:54 AM	#16 (permalink)
ParamedicMXr fucking virgins...	What the fuck. Somebody help. On the final step, it says _NEC DVD+-RW ND-6500A ILLEGAL DISC. What the hell? They are memorex 4.7gb DVD-Rs. Why wont it let me?

07-23-2005, 01:07 AM	#18 (permalink)
ParamedicMXr fucking virgins...	Well, according to Dell i have an 8x DVD burner, and i got 8X DVD-Rs. When i go to burn the CD however, i can select 1x, 2x, or 2.4x. Fock me. Best Buy wont take it back.

07-23-2005, 01:17 AM	#20 (permalink)
marksaccord95 TR Registered Member #5	how about burning a already downloaded movie so it will pop up and play in PS2/DVD players.